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What jacket(s) are you wearing at the moment?

B-Man2

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Still bloody cold, high -6 today and yet again blowing a gale (so -20 something yet again effective). At this rate I'm thinking that I should approach Canada Goose and see if they have a frequent user benefit program.
Or better yet …. Offer to be a product testing consultant and get all your jackets for free by videoing and writing up test results and placing them on you tube . ;)
 
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Smithy

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Or better yet …. Offer to be a product testing consultant and get all your jacket for free by videoing and writing up test results and placing them on you tube . ;)

Can't hurt can it? ;-)

What's really eye-opening is just how cold and dangerous things like -5, -6, -7 but with very high winds are. I can remember not long after I moved here the first time, a bloke I know who had been in the military up in Finnmark telling me how very low temperatures in still weather are much less dangerous than much warmer sub zero temperatures with high wind. Wind is the worst here.

The worst I've ever seen was when we were up in the mountains in 2007 and a full storm hit. That was terrifying, Ambient temperature was showing -34.7 Celsius on the digital thermometer but with nearly hurricane force winds. There were some Italian tourists not very far from us who got caught in it and died or got horrific frostbite.
 

Flightengineer

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Still bloody cold, high -6 today and yet again blowing a gale (so -20 something yet again effective). At this rate I'm thinking that I should approach Canada Goose and see if they have a frequent user benefit program.
CG is a good jacket, but not a panacea, you know that the key to warmth is layering. Wind is, yes, a key factor. I switched to membrane jackets with Thinsulate a long time ago. Yesterday night it was -26 C here and calm and I was calmly walking the dogs, and an hour ago it was already -15 and I cheerfully went to buy something, but a strong west wind literally made me feel what it feels like -35 there and I came back to put on another one sweater.
Remembering flights to cities where airports are beyond the Arctic Circle, but frosty and calm, one could stand next to the plane in winter in a cap and not freeze. And when we returned home to our home weather, even with a relatively slight frost but with big humidity with the strong wind, we literally didn’t want to get off the plane and we always waited for the shuttle for the crew on board, although we had already handed over the plane to the technicians.
 

B-Man2

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CG is a good jacket, but not a panacea, you know that the key to warmth is layering. Wind is, yes, a key factor. I switched to membrane jackets with Thinsulate a long time ago. Yesterday night it was -26 C here and calm and I was calmly walking the dogs, and an hour ago it was already -15 and I cheerfully went to buy something, but a strong west wind literally made me feel what it feels like -35 there and I came back to put on another one sweater.
Remembering flights to cities where airports are beyond the Arctic Circle, but frosty and calm, one could stand next to the plane in winter in a cap and not freeze. And when we returned home to our home weather, even with a relatively slight frost but with big humidity with the strong wind, we literally didn’t want to get off the plane and we always waited for the shuttle for the crew on board, although we had already handed over the plane to the technicians.
Damn that’s cold . Tell me .. what kind of gloves and boots do you guys wear on your hands and feet to keep them warm ?
 

Flightengineer

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Damn that’s cold . Tell me .. what kind of gloves and boots do you guys wear on your hands and feet to keep them warm ?

Nothing very special, Burt. In this weather, we don't spend much time outside anyway. You go to the store or you go to the garage and then you go by car or go to the subway. These are ordinary leather gloves insulated with wool inside and ordinary boots insulated with fur or wool (just when it's cold you need to put on an additional woolen sock). We grew up in this climate from childhood (cold winters and warm summers), so it's all a matter of habit.
And of course, we use thermal underwear under jeans or trousers in such weather.
If need to spend a lot of time outside in such weather, then of course you need special warm professional clothing and special shoes, but this is necessary for those who work outdoors (utilities, police, aircraft technicians, etc.).
 

Pa12

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Christmas Day. Not that cold. -9 c. But 80 km wind gusting to 100. Your breath freezes in seconds like it was -30. I had to put on my old flying goggles as my eyelids were freezing
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Pa12

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Spent a lot of time outside over the years in all kinds of weather fixing aircraft. Even did an engine change on an f-28 in gander in January. Brutal . Over 30 years on the ramp and we rarely had an aircraft brought back to the hangar. As the new generation came in that changed. They simply refused to. Anything more then an hour in the winter and they would just say it has to go to the hangar. If we had said that they would have told us to pack are shit and hit the road.
 

Flightengineer

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Spent a lot of time outside over the years in all kinds of weather fixing aircraft. Even did an engine change on an f-28 in gander in January. Brutal . Over 30 years on the ramp and we rarely had an aircraft brought back to the hangar. As the new generation came in that changed. They simply refused to. Anything more then an hour in the winter and they would just say it has to go to the hangar. If we had said that they would have told us to pack are shit and hit the road.

Your story reminded me of the times that I also found and always respected your colleagues who prepared the plane for flight in the cold, changed wheels, and made repairs right at the ramp lot. They really were iron guys ... and now they are.
When our company received firs A-320s for the first time in the "new times", it turned out that one of the water pipes on this plane froze during a winter night while plane parking at one of the northern airports (despite the fact that this aircraft was certified for operation at low temperatures). Before only Tu and our other "old iron birds" flew here.
Then the engineering remembered FinnAir, which also flies in similar weather conditions, and sent them a fax asking how they solve the problem of defrosting this tube in the morning after parking in the cold at night. The Finns' answer killed everyone: "our Airbus spend the night in heated hangars, we have no problems with freezing pipes" :)

I apologize to everyone for offtopic
 

Wholenineyards

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On topic proposal:)
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The car behind me is my friend's Audi. It just passed 333.333 km. Plus the mandatory biannual inspection. Oh. The jacket is an old Aero horsehide A-1? 37-J-1? It's a tank but so much fun to wear, not even broken in. I am thinking about having it painted. It's a size 44, sits well but is very restricted vice the M-422/ G-1. But I always thought it has style and deserves an outing. It won't minimize my attraction for Navy jackets, though...
 

Chandler

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On topic proposal:)
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The car behind me is my friend's Audi. It just passed 333.333 km. Plus the mandatory biannual inspection. Oh. The jacket is an old Aero horsehide A-1? 37-J-1? It's a tank but so much fun to wear, not even broken in. I am thinking about having it painted. It's a size 44, sits well but is very restricted vice the M-422/ G-1. But I always thought it has style and deserves an outing. It won't minimize my attraction for Navy jackets, though...
Has your friend had trouble with the front control arms on that A-4? I had a 2000 that I finally got fed up with -- many minor repairs, but those noisy control arms were replaced twice under warranty, but never fixed quite right.

Other than that, best highway car I ever had.
 

Smithy

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CG is a good jacket, but not a panacea, you know that the key to warmth is layering. Wind is, yes, a key factor. I switched to membrane jackets with Thinsulate a long time ago. Yesterday night it was -26 C here and calm and I was calmly walking the dogs, and an hour ago it was already -15 and I cheerfully went to buy something, but a strong west wind literally made me feel what it feels like -35 there and I came back to put on another one sweater.
Remembering flights to cities where airports are beyond the Arctic Circle, but frosty and calm, one could stand next to the plane in winter in a cap and not freeze. And when we returned home to our home weather, even with a relatively slight frost but with big humidity with the strong wind, we literally didn’t want to get off the plane and we always waited for the shuttle for the crew on board, although we had already handed over the plane to the technicians.

Christmas Day. Not that cold. -9 c. But 80 km wind gusting to 100. Your breath freezes in seconds like it was -30. I had to put on my old flying goggles as my eyelids were freezing View attachment 93193

Spot on fellas.

-20 something in completely still conditions is actually rather comfortable. Wind is the killer.

Here the kids even learn from kindergarten about the importance of layering in cold conditions. At the very least a thermal/woollen under layer, a thick fleece or thick wool layer, and a windproof and water resistant insulated outer layer.

And Dmitry, I have several pairs of Thinsulate lined gloves ;)
 

Wholenineyards

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Has your friend had trouble with the front control arms on that A-4? I had a 2000 that I finally got fed up with -- many minor repairs, but those noisy control arms were replaced twice under warranty, but never fixed quite right.

Other than that, best highway car I ever had.
I honestly have no info about any gripes he's had with his car. It just seems to trott on.
 
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