My 1980s Blood Chit - $3000 on eBay

[ZuZu]

There is a blood chit for sale now on eBay which I'm 99% certain I made in the 1980s:

CBI Blood Chit WWII WW2 Original Numbered Authentic Vintage Multi Piece Leather | eBay

For sale is an original CBI blood chit from WWII in excellent condition. Rare, early war version. I am a collector and have never come across one in such pristine condition. This is a painful sale for me, only doing so to pay the bills in difficult circumstances. Don't miss out, own a piece of...

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I'm certain because of the sewing, the overly dark red and blue which came about because I used too much black to dull down the colors (something definitely NOT done in India or China during WW2) and because of the bullshit "chop" which I would put on my leather copies. This "chop" is the bluish or reddish stamp which was put on legit cloth blood chits but not on leather homemade jobs- definitely not in a different color, My ignorance made me do this
as I only had blurry photos in books of leather chits and I copied the Chinese characters from my original cloth chit. Also bullshit is the official looking number on the leather back- there's no reason for this especially not on these unnofficial leather chits.

Look at the colors of the blue and red- you can see I mixed in a bit too much black- and you can see the artificial ageing I put on the surface of the ACRYLIC paint which I used.

Look at the sewing on the bottom of the chit- it was hand sewn (and poorly at that) by lil' ol' me- I didn't know how to sew leather on to a jacket.

I'm 99% sure this came from a B-10 I hade made by a tailor in San Francisco which he made by using cloth supplied by me and copying a G-1 jacket. The Hump patch I made for the front of this jacket showed up on eBay a year or 2 ago also I believe from a seller in Asia. I think that fake B-10 I had made with its fake chit and Hump patch somehow made it's way to Asia after I gave to a friend back in my days as a drunk!

Here you can see the bullshit "chop". Also note my primitive hand stitching which I used to sew it to my B-10 creation. I didn't have the skills to machine sew the chit to my B-10 creation.

I used old leather which I painted with acrylic- you can see my messy overspillage etc.

Official looking but bullshit!

You can see how the bluish or off color "chop" (extra Chinese characters) don't really go on a leather chit- and you can see how I aged them

99.999% sure it's mine!

 

[ZuZu]

Original 2 piece leather chits are far cruder and don't bother to use 2 colors for the Chinese characters or even a "chop" at all! I was copying a cloth chit and looking at photos in books on the Hump.

Original

3 different leathers- not painted although some could be.

 

[ZuZu]

Original:

 

[B-Man2]

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At $3000 a pop… you should start getting back into making them . They’ve got to be perfect repros to command those prices . So … if you do one a month … well do the math . $36,000 a year …. Com’on … how can you think your degree is useless?

 

[Shanghai-Mayne]

Both of you are genius, I am proud to meet you here!

 

[ZuZu]

I sewed the chit with a hand crank Singer I bought.

 

[Iceman300]

Hi can anyone one help me out on this.. it’s a monarch ww2 AAF A-2 I came a cross but some things don’t add up.. the wear and tear of the jacket is spot on but the blood chit doesn’t add up for me and don’t understand why someone would added it say 10yrs later or maybe 20yrs and help would be amazing as I want to buy it but don’t know what the real value is

 

[mulceber]

don’t understand why someone would added it say 10yrs later or maybe 20yrs

Or in the last ten years. The reason why would be to enhance its value, so they can ask $2500-3000 instead of $1200-1500.

FWIW, it looks like a recent addition to me.

 

[Iceman300]

Or in the last ten years. The reason why would be to enhance its value, so they can ask $2500-3000 instead of $1200-1500.

FWIW, it looks like a recent addition to me.

So 800–1000 if I leave it I’m sure if I remove it the old horse hide will be stuck like a pig

 

[Iceman300]

So 800–1000 if I leave it I’m sure if I remove it the old horse hide will be stuck like a pig

I’ll delete this just trying to figure out if I should give the man 300 keep in mind the banding is bad real bad cuffs and waist.. please help a guy out that wants to save a pice of history if it’s real

 

[Silver Surfer]

not much to go by,, but the shoulder patches look new. caveat emptor

 

[Pilot]

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not much to go by,, but the shoulder patches look new. caveat emptor

Agree with S.S.
Plus the B.S. is lacking of the mandatory chop and ID No.
Some sewing is not there.. and the B.S. wear/patina does not match with the patina of the Monarch .. ( BTW a nice one ).
The B.S. ( and patches ) should have a similar wear/patina as the name tag has… which is not the case..
Red flags all over for all patches and B.S.

 

[ZuZu]

Hi can anyone one help me out on this.. it’s a monarch ww2 AAF A-2 I came a cross but some things don’t add up.. the wear and tear of the jacket is spot on but the blood chit doesn’t add up for me and don’t understand why someone would added it say 10yrs later or maybe 20yrs and help would be amazing as I want to buy it but don’t know what the real value is

After my experiences in the 1970s and 1980s I can say that I think many if not most back paintings, 8th AF stuff, CBI chits and leather patches are fake. Ageing when done properly by a young eye and extremely detail oriented eye like I had in the 1970s is not that hard. I was told by one collector/dealer that my stuff was "scary". This was before the internet and still I have seen my stuff on eBay as authentic, and now this chit. If I was making this stuff back then and it's appearing now think of all the other forgers with far more resources working back then and since- putting this stuff on original A-2s for that extra few hundred dollars on and on. I was just one little guy painting backs of A-2s and making chits and patches- there must have been many more just as talented guys doing the same thing. The thing with forgeries is the ageing- and those who were able to do this have created many things that are now being bought and sold as "authentic" I say trust nothing.

 

[ZuZu]

Plus the B.S. is lacking of the mandatory chop and ID No.

Different colored "chops" and ID numbers are bullshit on actual CBI leather stuff- leather stuff was just done by local artisans- it was not official.

 

[ZuZu]

This real chit shows the various parts. The majority of the Chinese characters are black but there were 2 which were an add on (for some reason I don't remeber). The added on characters were often a different color on issued or official chits but on the leather ones they were black. The chop is the stamp usually red which was applied to official chits. Leather chits don't have this usually.

 

[ZuZu]

On my fake you can see my bullshit chop and the 2 added characters in a different color. I faded them a lot figuring that they would age faster than the black characters. Original leather 2 pieve chits don't have this differentiation- they were just primitive copies of official cloth chits.

 

[ZuZu]

On this genuine 2 piece chit you can see how the "add on" characters were just copied in black. There's no chop.

 

[Shanghai-Mayne]

Even Indian artists can made those chits In leather.