Gary's famous

[a2jacketpatches]

This forum is great, the guys in it are great, all opinions I heard are realistic and I 'd gladly take them as advice.
This is the best forum I 've been, I 've been at others where they had outrageously unrealistic opinions and they wanted to impose them on others.

Agreed, all opinions in this thread have a lot of good points and most of the guys on the forum ingeneral are great. Any aggressors that I've been so long winded about seem to be at a loss for words. :roll:

Not at all - never been an issue for me. But the thread is dead. I simply chose to let it go. You can do the same or keep it going. I just won't be part of it. Cheers.

Honest to God!
Not talking about you. You had some very good points and I understand what you were saying. I think we were just focused on different things here. Once again, this had absolutely nothing to do with inaccuracies of a jacket or any other info that could help a consumer, it's about reckless mouthing off as far as I was concerned.

My sincere apologies

To quote myself -
"Agreed, all opinions in this thread have a lot of good points"
I made a point to word it like that for you. And also to point out my unbiased opinions of 3 different jacket makers. I feel it's my responsibility as a contributor to the industry as I am a minimal consumer at best.

 

[ButteMT61]

Honest to God!
Not talking about you. You had some very good points and I understand what you were saying. I think we were just focused on different things here. Once again, this had absolutely nothing to do with inaccuracies of a jacket or any other info that could help a consumer, it's about reckless mouthing off as far as I was concerned.

My sincere apologies

To quote myself -
"Agreed, all opinions in this thread have a lot of good points"
I made a point to word it like that for you. And also to point out my unbiased opinions of 3 different jacket makers. I feel it's my responsibility as a contributor to the industry as I am a minimal consumer at best.

OK, I indeed figured you were talking to me, so I thought I'd let it die. I truly have no beef with any makers - but I do willingly contribute to threads based on what I've read in a way that may appear to be. I read of a number of things with a certain maker over time, and I've joked about such things in a number of topics. The only one I know enough to have a real opinion on is the VAT. And it was rightly pointed out that another maker does the same thing. There's factions of fans and foes in regards to makers here and elsewhere. People seem to take it personally when someone says something about one of them. If someone makes a claim, I figure they should back it up with some data. Either way, for me, I will probably joke about such things long after they're actually funny to anyone. That's my problem I s'pose. It's tougher to judge online when a joke has run it's course. But let it be known, I'll joke about anyone, anything, and more often, myself.

Apologies back to you.

 

[a2jacketpatches]

I can take a joke just like the next guy and can recognize good fun as well. The whole VAT thread you will not find a single opinion from me anywhere as it is not my concern, I don't buy jackets for the most part. I assume that the entire discussion has good valid points and honestly, I didn't even read enough to try and understand any of it whatsoever.

My beef is with opinions from those who truly don't have an idea what they're talking about and it could affect me or others in a negative way. Usually about artwork or the collecting and selling of original military items. I find that most of the BS is from guys who don't walk the walk or do in a limited capacity at best when it comes to things that are my concern.

I think I saw the potential for this thread to go in that direction for Gary because there really was no discussion point to begin with. Just a slide show and initial comments that gave me that feeling.

 

[unclegrumpy]

Once again, this had absolutely nothing to do with inaccuracies of a jacket or any other info that could help a consumer, it's about reckless mouthing off as far as I was concerned.

I agree. What particularly bothers me is when these comments drift into what feel like personal attacks from people that probably have no basis to make them.

I do not currently have any business relationship with Gary Eastman. However, I have before, dating back over 20 years. These involved buying a number of his jackets and sometimes selling/trading him items in return....mostly US flight gear. Most of our transactions were by mail, but on several occasions were in person.

In my experience, Gary is a man with extremely high integrity, and an especially knowledgable collector. He is also a very likable guy, that I have enjoyed meeting and doing business with. I also admire how his business has grown over the years, and the many positive things he has brought to this hobby.

 

[Anonymous]

I gotta say I like the color of the lining Gary uses on his RW

 

[nogbat]

yes it is good platon ,,

 

[Roughwear]

I can take a joke just like the next guy and can recognize good fun as well. The whole VAT thread you will not find a single opinion from me anywhere as it is not my concern, I don't buy jackets for the most part. I assume that the entire discussion has good valid points and honestly, I didn't even read enough to try and understand any of it whatsoever.

My beef is with opinions from those who truly don't have an idea what they're talking about and it could affect me or others in a negative way. Usually about artwork or the collecting and selling of original military items. I find that most of the BS is from guys who don't walk the walk or do in a limited capacity at best when it comes to things that are my concern.

I think I saw the potential for this thread to go in that direction for Gary because there really was no discussion point to begin with. Just a slide show and initial comments that gave me that feeling.

I agree. A sense of humour is essential here. Gary has done more than most to popularise Wartime jackets and without him the hobby would be much poorer. He has kindled an interest in WW2 jackets in the UK and beyond.

 

[mindful]

if it wasn't for Eastman leather i would have never found such a great hobby and this forum with all the the guys with the same interests all the amazing reproduction clothing ive come to admire. Gary is up there with rest if the great craftsman and best of all he is English.

 

[Anonymous]

I am about to toss my breakfast. I hope the critics and ass kissers are now finished.

 

[Roughwear]

I am about to toss my breakfast. I hope the critics and ass kissers are now finished.

So which camp to do fall in?

 

[John Lever]

It pains me to say it but I think ALC were the first.

 

[Anonymous]

I am about to toss my breakfast. I hope the critics and ass kissers are now finished.

So which camp to do fall in?

I own a Star, and have owned a Seal brown goat. they are great jackets, but not worth 5 pages of blather.

 

[mindful]

I am about to toss my breakfast. I hope the critics and ass kissers are now finished.

ive said my piece mate

 

[a2jacketpatches]

At least in this forum you can ignore, move on, or start another subject that does interest you. It's not like someone is banging on your door a few times a day or ringing your phone off the hook, pushing their idiosyncrasies on you. That would be almost unbearable and annoying like a bug. :lol:

 

[Vcruiser]

Can ignore..and will ignore..is entirely two different things.
I find that few really ever do for long.

VB

 

[flyboy]

This is getting boring.
Gay's number one - at least in Europe - with repro aviation jackets. He's even made himself a good business being just that.
So what's the big deal?
Besides that he's a nice enough chap to talk to. Always very polite and helpful with questions, wether you mail him directly or post on their wall.
End of story.
I think too many people just have too much time at their hands. Can we get on now? :roll:

 

[Roughwear]

This is getting boring. I think too many people just have too much time at their hands. Can we get on now? :roll:

I do hope so Soren.

 

[269sqnhudson]

These things ALWAYS start getting weird with someone saying something like 'Oh here we go again with the Eastman bashing'. I'm not sure they'd ever go that way without someone predicting it :lol:

 

[a2jacketpatches]

No prediction, I called it target practice in the very beginning only because that's how it started, take a look for yourself. And as for moving on, how can that be done. This is how conversation goes, I suppose if this thread was truly so boring it wouldn't have had over 1100 hits and almost 60 entries. If the name calling and one liners say it all for some of you guys, more power to ya. I happen to be a little more involved with this hobby than that.