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Bill Kelso W&G M 422
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Anonymous
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This is not something to laugh at.
The good old days the tanneries had the skins ready made, whatever color you liked.
Now with this crisis, they don't have nothing. It's all custom orders. They need 2-3 weeks to match the color and then 3-6 weeks for production. Plus they want big quantities as minimum order. If they fail to match the color you must wait another 2-3 weeks for them to try again. Many times you have to order without seeing samples. It's very frusutrating.
Before Bill Kelso made the navy jackets, asked his supplier "do you have enough of this mouton?"
The answer was "Oh yeah, don't worry, as much as you want". But when the time to order came it was proved that indeed he had as much as we wanted, the color was perfect, the hair was pefect but..... it was multipiece mouton so had to reject it.
The good old days the tanneries had the skins ready made, whatever color you liked.
Now with this crisis, they don't have nothing. It's all custom orders. They need 2-3 weeks to match the color and then 3-6 weeks for production. Plus they want big quantities as minimum order. If they fail to match the color you must wait another 2-3 weeks for them to try again. Many times you have to order without seeing samples. It's very frusutrating.
Before Bill Kelso made the navy jackets, asked his supplier "do you have enough of this mouton?"
The answer was "Oh yeah, don't worry, as much as you want". But when the time to order came it was proved that indeed he had as much as we wanted, the color was perfect, the hair was pefect but..... it was multipiece mouton so had to reject it.
airfrogusmc
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Roughwear said:
You could do what I did. Score some great old vintage mouton and send it. Still it will be worth the wait.
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Anonymous
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Dear Allen,
your mouton was fine, but the collor wasn't the correct.
When buying ladies coats for old mouton there is the problem that from the pics on auctions you cant tell if the color is the correct, you can't tell if the hair length is the correct and you can't tell if the coaat is made with big pieces (enough to cut collars from) or it is made by multipiece skins.
Also, you can never have uniformity in the color and one customer will be getting one color, the other another color, someone will be asking the same color as the photos he has seen somewhere on another guys jacket and it will always be impossible to give them what they want.
Also to get the ladies' coats is difficult, some guys asking crazy prices, they don't cooperate to declare low value, you may pay a fortune in customs who may think this is an expensive coat and many other factors.
your mouton was fine, but the collor wasn't the correct.
When buying ladies coats for old mouton there is the problem that from the pics on auctions you cant tell if the color is the correct, you can't tell if the hair length is the correct and you can't tell if the coaat is made with big pieces (enough to cut collars from) or it is made by multipiece skins.
Also, you can never have uniformity in the color and one customer will be getting one color, the other another color, someone will be asking the same color as the photos he has seen somewhere on another guys jacket and it will always be impossible to give them what they want.
Also to get the ladies' coats is difficult, some guys asking crazy prices, they don't cooperate to declare low value, you may pay a fortune in customs who may think this is an expensive coat and many other factors.
airfrogusmc
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PLATON said:
Actually it is pretty much a dead match to Grants almost dead stock original W&G M422. In fact the color of my goat is a bit dark compared to most originals. I don't mind the jacket being darker but the mouton is almost dead on...
You tell me about the mouton
Grants original
BK with vintage mouton I supplied.
The mouton looks damn close to me.
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Anonymous
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yeah you're right about that
I was thinking the color of another contract
I was thinking the color of another contract
airfrogusmc
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PLATON said:
Pattern is real good as compared to the original I think don't you?
Ya really nailed the fit....
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Anonymous
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and this original is darker than Grant's
BK is proud of this repro. I was lucky to find an original that was in good condition and we could replicate the pattern very successfuly.
BK is proud of this repro. I was lucky to find an original that was in good condition and we could replicate the pattern very successfuly.
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Anonymous
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You will love this original in almost mint condition, very dark eh?
It has also the dark knits, same as BK uses and a very dark mouton that BK has available if you want (the colos is called ebony and it's a very dark brown, almost black, but not black).
this one is very dark but I have seen lighter jackets of the same contract, but not as light as Grant's
It has also the dark knits, same as BK uses and a very dark mouton that BK has available if you want (the colos is called ebony and it's a very dark brown, almost black, but not black).
this one is very dark but I have seen lighter jackets of the same contract, but not as light as Grant's
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Anonymous
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the colors of the moutons were all over the place as everything else, leathers, knits etc
airfrogusmc
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Color, weight all varied with many originals from the same maker and even within the same contract. IIRC JC had an original about the same as Grants. I think he used to have a photo on his site.
Again, I'm very happy with my jacket...
Again, I'm very happy with my jacket...
ButteMT61
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PLATON said:You will love this original in almost mint condition, very dark eh?
It has also the dark knits, same as BK uses and a very dark mouton that BK has available if you want (the colos is called ebony and it's a very dark brown, almost black, but not black).
Is that yours? Wanna sell it?
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Anonymous
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not mine
