Bombing IP
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Guy behind the prop #5 . Maybe my #1 is just a shadow on the jacket lower prop blade .
Jeff
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Some of the 4th FG and a lot of A-2s
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ausreenactor
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Lots of B-10s and I can see some B-9s as well.
Smithy
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I wore an A-2 last winter in the coldest temps I've probably ever worn one, -5 Celsius. On the top half I was wearing a thermal (merino wool) long sleeve T, this pseudo C-2 sweater thing I have and a scarf. I was actually OK but I wouldn't have wanted to be standing around for hours outside like that watching a rugby match in it. A big part of it though was that there was no wind as well that day which is unusual for here so I got away with it.
stanier
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The thing is that under that A-2 they are likely wearing an under layer t shirt or vest of some sort, a wool shirt, tie and maybe c-2 or even mechanics sweater and the scarf. Certainly the guy on the far right of the pic looks well padded in his A-2!
Brettafett
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I wore my A-2s quite a lot last winter. As long as I have a scarf, I'm gold.
Smithy
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That's what I'm thinking too. 336 were part of a complete 4th escort to Derben-Stendal on 1/1/1945 and this photo is almost certainly taken either prior to the op or afterwards.
B-Man2
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And for all those reasons you guys just mentioned, it’s good to have an A2 that fits just slightly big. Those BOB and Mechanics jumpers tend to take up a bit of room under there. I’m like most in that I like them to fit T shirt trim but I’m fortunate that I have a second larger one for layering when the temperature drops to 80 degrees F here in Florida......
ausreenactor
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Roomier has to be better. Allows for some dietary blow outs and sedentary lifestyles.
Smithy
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And for all those reasons you guys just mentioned, it’s good to have an A2 that fits just slightly big. Those BOB and Mechanics jumpers tend to take up a bit of room under there. I’m like most in that I like them to fit T shirt trim but I’m fortunate that I have a second larger one for layering when the temperature drops to 80 degrees F here in Florida......
Both of mine I can wear a t-shirt, shirt and a light jumper under. I can even at a pinch fit my submarine jumper under but TBH it's a bit of a squeeze and especially in the arms. The whole skin tight A-2 fit is a pile of hogwash and I think grew out of that trend in Japan a few years back to wear them super tight. From a WWII perspective it's utter arse. You don't want it to fit like a bin liner but at the same time you want room to wear an undershirt, shirt and thin jumper.
B-Man2
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Completely agree. The photos tell the truth about trim A2’s . In the winter the guys had everything they owned that was warm on under them. Thus they looked pretty trim.
Take a look at the same guy in the spring or summer and his jacket looked a bit loose on him.
ausreenactor
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To get an undershirt, OD wool shirt, A-4 flight suit under a trim A-2 would be very hard..
Smithy
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Dude of the Day...
Kendall "Swede" Carlson of 336 from Red Bluff, California. Ended up a POW in 1945 after getting shot down attacking an aerodrome at Kothen. Ended WWII with 10 victories (6 aerial, 4 ground). Flew combat in Korea as well. Goody included a chapter about him in his "Tumult in the Clouds".
First pic in a Jug, second in a P-51B...
Kendall "Swede" Carlson of 336 from Red Bluff, California. Ended up a POW in 1945 after getting shot down attacking an aerodrome at Kothen. Ended WWII with 10 victories (6 aerial, 4 ground). Flew combat in Korea as well. Goody included a chapter about him in his "Tumult in the Clouds".
First pic in a Jug, second in a P-51B...
Brettafett
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I tend to agree with the above. Although some seem trim 80% of the pics of pilots wearing A-2s during WW2, that I have accumulated... show them on the slightly larger side. And Im not talking short, but fit.
To add to what you say Tim, I also recon a lot of the trim vibe may also have come from retro 80s early 90's bomber-jacket fashion.
80% of the pics of pilots wearing A-2s during WW2, that I have accumulated... show them on the slightly larger side. And Im not talking short, but fit.To add to what you say Tim, I also recon a lot of the trim vibe may also have come from retro 80s early 90's bomber-jacket fashion.
ausreenactor
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I cried...
ausreenactor
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Had to Google him; however, you could be on the money. Are those flight boots British?
