Small arms and edged weapons

[Chandler]

I live in the UK, we aren't even allowed pointy sticks !

Release the tiger!

 

[Chandler]

My 1911 refurbished in the US as part of that marksman program - i forgot the name sorry - the barrel is stamped i will check as soon as i'm back home

and my 1928 Thompson - the gun is an original converted to semi (fires with an open bolt) - i already got some Thompson-parts in my collection - one of the items is the pictured "X-Type" (X stands for romanian 10) and some other stuff

This thing weights a ton - for accuracy some experience is needed (which i not yet gathered enough)

I didn't know they allowed such "luxuries" in Germany.

As to the Thompson accuracy, Thomas, mine is pretty sharp -- weight and all. I *do* however, have the longer barrel due to firearms regulations in my state.

CMP, by the way -- Civilian Marksmanship Program

 

[Southoftheborder]

I live in the UK, we aren't even allowed pointy sticks !

We don’t have the same murder rates either. How many small children would that nutter in Southport have killed if he had taken a semi automatic to that dance class instead of a knife. I am happy we have gun control in the UK.

 

[Pa12]

I didn't know they allowed such "luxuries" in Germany.

As to the Thompson accuracy, Thomas, mine is pretty sharp -- weight and all. I *do* however, have the longer barrel due to firearms regulations in my state.

CMP, by the way -- Civilian Marksmanship Program

I’m surprised also. We can’t even own the semi auto version. But we can buy a 12 guage pump with a six inch barrel, unrestricted and unregistered. Go figure.

 

[coolhandluke]

@Thomas Koehle, how in the world were you able to import a CMP (or DCM) pistol? I'm thrilled that you have one in the collection. I had to go through the lottery process and the wait was a couple years IIRC.

I need to get my CMP Ithaca back out to the range, now that the weather's getting warmer. Here's the first magazine through my CMP pistol after I received it.

 

[Thomas Koehle]

I didn't know they allowed such "luxuries" in Germany.

As to the Thompson accuracy, Thomas, mine is pretty sharp -- weight and all. I *do* however, have the longer barrel due to firearms regulations in my state.

CMP, by the way -- Civilian Marksmanship Program

It is pretty hard to get a license over here. Either you are a longterm member in a gunclub/shooting-sport club or you hold a hunting license.

Since i'm not a "club person" i had to go through the procedure to get a hunting-license. Not just to be able to own guns but for actual hunting. The studies took 4 weeks fulltime (6 days studying - 1 day off) and the exam was the hardest i ever gone through. You are tested in wildlife-knowledge, your knowledge about animal-diseases, law, hunting techniques, handling and technology of weapons (edged and firearms) and finally shooting range (moving target "Keiler" - Boar, 100 mtr. fixed target and shotgun with flying targets (skeet shooting) ...

Part of the qualification was to name every internal organ of wild animals and to identify possible sicknesses based on visual examination of the organs ...

Don't ask me what that whole project cost (lessons, tests, documents, insurance, ...) ...

Well and holding such an license you are permitted to buy as many "long firearms" (rifles, shotguns) as you want need (given you're able to proof proper storage in a safe) and 2 sidearms. If you want to transport your guns to the range or into the woods you need special containers to avoid anyone would steal your stuff.

Your arms need to be registered and you have grant access to official inspectors to visit you and check for the condition of your gear.

I have been to the US several times (including 1 year work in SC) and was always surprised how easy it is to get hands on firearms. The thing that stuned me most was when an elderly lady purchased a MOSSBERG pump without waiting-period just off the shelf.

Totally "stunning" for me was the experience to get to a range, listen to some safety-instructions, sign a piece of paper and then beeing allowed to shoot full-auto guns ...

1 dumped 2 full drum-mags and was happy with it (see the smile) - the photo was before i got the license - no idea about trigger discipline back then

Full autos are an absolute NO-NO over here

 

[Thomas Koehle]

@Thomas Koehle, how in the world were you able to import a CMP (or DCM) pistol to Germany? I'm thrilled that you have one in the collection. I had to go through the lottery process and the wait was a couple years IIRC.

I need to get my CMP Ithaca back out to the range, now that the weather's getting warmer. Here's the first magazine through my CMP pistol after I received it.

Love the noise!

I didn't expect the kick comin' that hard when i first shot her - compared with a 9 mm it is much more massive

 

[coolhandluke]

It is pretty hard to get a license over here. Either you are a longterm member in a gunclub/shooting-sport club or you hold a hunting license.

Since i'm not a "club person" i had to go through the procedure to get a hunting-license. The studies took 4 weeks fulltime (6 days studying - 1 day off) and the exam was the hardest i ever gone through. You are tested in wildlife-knowledge, your knowledge about animal-diseases, law, hunting techniques, handling and technology of weapons (edged and firearms) and finally shooting range (moving target "Keiler" - Boar, 100 mtr. fixed target and shotgun with flying targets (skeet shooting) ...

Part of the qualification was to name every internal organ of wild animals ...



Don't ask me what that whole project cost (lessons, tests, documents, insurance, ...) - BIIIIIIG DOLLAR ...

Well and holding such an license you are permitted to buy as many "long firearms" (rifles, shotguns) as you want need (given you can proof a proper storage in a safe) and 2 sidearms.

Your arms need to be registered and you have grant access to official inspectors to visit you and check for the condition of your gear.

I have been to the US several times (including 1 year work in SC) and was always surprised how easy it is to get hands on firearms. The thing that stuned me most was when an elderly lady purchased a MOSSBERG pump without waiting-period just off the shelf.

Totally "stunning" for me was the experience to get to a range, listen to some safety-instructions, sign a piece of paper and then beeing allowed to shoot full-auto guns ...

1 dumped 2 full drum-mags and was happy with it (see the smile) - the photo was before i got the license - no idea about trigger discipline back then

Full autos are an absolute NO-NO over here

Seeing ceilings like that is why public indoor ranges scare the hell out of me.

 

[coolhandluke]

Love the noise!

I didn't expect the kick comin' that hard when i first shot her - compared with a 9 mm it is much more massive

Yep...230 gr .45 ACP makes a bit more recoil and noise than puny 'ol 9mm.

I love shooting .45 ACP out of a 1911. It's not nearly as pleasant on the hands out of an older S&W wheelgun though.

 

[Pa12]

Yep...230 gr .45 ACP makes a bit more recoil and noise than puny 'ol 9mm.

I love shooting .45 ACP out of a 1911. It's not nearly as pleasant on the hands out of an older S&W wheelgun though.

Or a plastic gun. Had an m&p in 45 auto. Doesn’t have enough weight for that caliber. Sold it.

 

[Thomas Koehle]

Seeing ceilings like that is why public indoor ranges scare the hell out of me.

You are right!

Was my first time on a range in 2013 ...

3 booths to my left a 50 kg (roughly 100 p) girl tried to shoot a MG42 (with reduced cycle rate) - even tough her boyfriend tried to hold the gun she dropped it off the bipod and shot towards the floor - that was scary ...

BTW: the target wasn't as near as on the photo when i was shooting ...