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Platon Dubow seal?
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Pilot
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Any good news?
Pilot
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Was exactly the oposite...The BK had non tapered arms and very wide, it wrinkles a lot and the wrinkles stay or remain...
The GW and the Aero have quite narrow tapered arms...no wrinkles at all, as seen on the photos....
IMHO its the leather used, the tanning and the cut/profile of the sleeve/arm.
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Whatsit
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It shows pre Platon it made it on a plane so I was wrong. I figured it never made it on the plane. I’m sure it will be here sooner or later.
Pilot
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Great news! thx for sharing.
...well, right, all things being otherwise equal, tight sleeves wrinkle more. The different leathers will definitely have more impact.
jeremiah
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Different leathers will tend to react differently as to where and how quickly creases and wrinkles form.
I use both veg tanned and bridle leather for belts. Both are around $200-250 a side. So they are both from good and well known tanneries.
Just a matter of preference after that. My one bridal belt I made and wore myself developed almost no creasing after almost 2 years wearing.
I don’t use that leather much anymore. A well used belt should look well used and still hold up to what it was made to do years later. I now use that leather for my belts. But both are of the highest quality you can buy.
I also own two pair of Alden’s. One from CXL leather and one from veg tanned cow or calf.
The CXL has developed more hard creasing where as the veg tanned less so but still the normal folds where the boot flexes with movement.
Obviously both leathers are Horween and you know it’s tanned right.
I use both veg tanned and bridle leather for belts. Both are around $200-250 a side. So they are both from good and well known tanneries.
Just a matter of preference after that. My one bridal belt I made and wore myself developed almost no creasing after almost 2 years wearing.
I don’t use that leather much anymore. A well used belt should look well used and still hold up to what it was made to do years later. I now use that leather for my belts. But both are of the highest quality you can buy.
I also own two pair of Alden’s. One from CXL leather and one from veg tanned cow or calf.
The CXL has developed more hard creasing where as the veg tanned less so but still the normal folds where the boot flexes with movement.
Obviously both leathers are Horween and you know it’s tanned right.
Very well said, it's hard to explain just a tiny bit better. Respect Jeremiah!
My several cents about that:
1. Dubow Mfg jackets discussed above look very nice and very appealing, to my taste these Dubows are tempting considering its leather and everything else. No doubts.
I have some questions about their proportions though, esp. about the length of its body (esp. on their big sizes 44/46), but - those examples of "creases" on both @Micawber's jackets are absolutely gorgeous both.
I mean his Dubow Mfg' and GW Star Sportswear' creases showed above - to my taste both examples of sleeves creases look just fantastic, fabulous, gorgeous!
2. Originals... of course they had/have those "creases" too, but the degree/level of their creases may vary/varied significantly... I suppose it might depend on several things - such as type/kind of its leather (Jeremiah, thanks a lot again for your very well said description of that point!) and on the grade of those originals' wear/condition... So, it depends... that's why creases (incl. sleeves' creases) on WWII originals vary from hardly noticeable to quite noticeable on those tons of photos in the net...
3. I suppose that with a lot of continuing hard wearings those "creases" might start looking less noticeable on the showed above @Micawber's Dubow, I mean just look at fabulous Nick's (@D97x7) BK Dubow - it's hard to be more "original WWII looking" to any top-notch repro A-2...
I think it's hardly possible to choose even what A-2 from what maker looks "the-only-best-0f all" not to mention choosing what exact hi-end repros' maker is "the-only-best" vs another top-notch ones - that's going to be senseless pointless discussion then, isn't it?
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bubbahavens
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Pilot if Platon will not make me a 44 short then should I go with 42 or 44 reg? Thanks for advice
bubbahavens
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Yes I haven’t asked him yet but f he’d do a 44 short. My chest is 41. Around shoulders is 49. Waist is 40-41 Height is 5’7”. Weight 179. Should it be a 42 or 44? Opinions please??
bubbahavens
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Thanks you are right
EmergencyIan
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On another note, my GW Bronco’s horsehide looked very similar to the leather on your original. Mine looked much newer, of course. But I see the similarities. I only mention this because both the original and the GW repro have hide and finish that looks specific to them, to me eyes. Maybe it’s coincidental.
- Ian
Pilot
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Would go for a 44” Reg. you can always shrink ( HWT) or make the sleeves shorter at a tailer shop...but in no case you can make it larger if too small...IMHO.
Pilot
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Thx, yes they have...hence they look like WW2 originals very fast...
Pilot
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Size N# in the label.
Since my ELC A-2 book is not with me right now, I have a question...On the Dubow A-2 Contract 27798 is the size number in the label like for GW, Platoon’s jackets, or is it attached like for LW?
What is correct if compared to the WW2 contract? inside I guess, or both depending on the year or batch...?
What is correct if compared to the WW2 contract? inside I guess, or both depending on the year or batch...?
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B-Man2
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Bryce
The sizes were inside the label unlike the Lost World size labels.
