Original RW vs. Repro Collars

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ZuZu​

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Man, this is why I pay attention when you speak Zuzu, education time. Fantastic.

Thanks- it's a curse for me and for you guys1

Here's an example of a large 48 27752 which shows a smoother neck line- a justification of the smoother line seen in repros:

However- so many more originals show the 3 part neck line fold:

I think it's because there is more material in the body of the collar than can be folded in a perfect curve- also I think that the collar curve evens out flat towards the windflap. But really it's inexplicable to me- I just see it.

 

[ZuZu]

The shape of the neck line is one smooth line- I'm sure mostly because JC wanted to photograph it that way. However- I've never seen even a GW just naturally create the 3 part neck line fold I see in so many original RWs. Not a criticism- I think it's because in pattern and sewing he has to tend toward the ideal.

Originals:

There are literally scores of examples of this in my morgue file. I don't think that wear will do this- in fact I've never seen even a well worn repro do this. It's some foible of sewing order or subtle pattern quirk which creates this especially in Rough Wears.

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[caddyd]

Very interesting.

 

[B-Man2]

I’ll throw my RW 23380 into the mix to further support ZUZUs comments .

 

[Nickb123]

Always thought the 3-part look rather than the one smooth line was the best look.

 

[Dany McDonald]

Interesting and way above my head really...

This is an older Rainbow Country RW and they did catch that detail in a way, give it time and it will start to fold. This is just a guess, maybe Chrome tanned leather being more pliable lends itself to this effect vs the more bodied Veg tanned?

Hope this relevant to the post, anyways here it is.