New Eastman Leather M422A "Elite Unit"

[Pilot]

Mouton… NOS… not curly „hairs“ but straight.. 1/2 inch long… as it should be..

 

[Smithy]

Mouton… NOS… not curly „hairs“ but straight.. 1/2 inch long… as it should be..View attachment 128449View attachment 128451View attachment 128453View attachment 128455

Brice as always expertly eloquently illustrates what I was talking about in my posts above.

Thanks Brice

 

[Pilot]

Brice as always expertly eloquently illustrates what I was talking about in my posts above.

Thanks Brice

A pleasure!

 

[Greg Gale]

I agree about the collars. My AVI's collar is exquisite. I'd expect the same on an ELC. And these prices...don't even get me started on them...

But hey, if I was Gary and I could see that there are people willing to pay this much, I'd do the same. Why work for less if you can get more?

 

[warguy]

Today at 1:41 PM
“A cursory internet search will show that Eastman's mouton isn't right on any of their jackets- it's sheepskin, not mouton”.

Really, let’s not be ridiculous.

I agree the “sheepskin” on this jacket that started this post is not correct but it is also no a correct statement to suggest all of Eastmans jackets are sheepskin and not mouton. I have a gorgeous mouton collar on my Eastman M-422A. Just sayIn.

 

[Spitfireace]

Maybe Eastman uses sheepskin because old mouton, once it gets worn down, tends to be less fur like. Question: were the WW2 B-10 and B15's sheepskin collars, or mouton collars? I have no originals but have a BR B-15 and it's sheepskin not mouton. I assume this is correct.

 

[Pilot]

Maybe Eastman uses sheepskin because old mouton, once it gets worn down, tends to be less fur like. Question: were the WW2 B-10 and B15's sheepskin collars, or mouton collars? I have no originals but have a BR B-15 and it's sheepskin not mouton. I assume this is correct.

I am quite certain „ mouton“ , it became a bit more compact with wear and aging but mouton .
See attached.

WWII Uniforms - Flight Gear 1944-1945 / F-3 Heated Suit

303rd Bomb Group - Molesworth, England

www.303rdbg.com

 

[Kermit3D]

A cursory internet search will show that Eastman's mouton isn't right on any of their jackets- it's sheepskin, not mouton. (The new B-10 is an exception because it has a white sheepskin collar). Also the collars on most of their B-10s and M-422a type jackets are too pointy. Not being mean- just pointing out something that can easily be corrected especially for $1500 to $1700 jackets!

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These are made with sheepskin dyed brown- never subjected to the electical mouton straightening process (whatever that is). It never ages right...

100% agree, I can't explain why this collar didn't catch my eye when I published this post yesterday... this collar definitely has something wrong with it.

 

[Kermit3D]

This is the collar of my original M-422A Gordon & Ferguson :

 

[Kermit3D]

Except for that strange collar (still that cauliflower look), it's still a very nice jacket (IMHO).
The goatskin color seems much better than this M-422A. Unless it's just a question of lighting.
... and yes, at that price, a collar like that is unacceptable.

 

[Pilot]

This is the collar of my original M-422A Gordon & Ferguson :

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Thankyou/merci G.
Spot on!
Shows all the wrong sides of the collar of the besaid ELC invention.

 

[Pilot]

Thankyou/merci G.
Spot on!
Shows all the wrong sides of the collar of the besaid ELC invention.

Edit.. here in „the money printing world.. „ nobody is really interested in such little „nonsense details“.. ELC still has a good name however, just a „little behind „ BR and TRMC‘s .
( price wise and in fame )
Anyway selling like hot cakes with their various products and outlets in Asia and Gulf.

 

[bseal]

I think it was called Electrfield Lamb. My mum had a coat made from it, it looked like mink.

Bill Kelso is on board:

“Grizzly” Fur Blouse of Electrified Lamb - Bill Kelso Mfg.

Jackets with fur known as “Grizzly [bear] jackets” among collectors were the ultimate leather jacket to own between the 1930s and 40s. Their real designation however was Fur Blouses and they were offered by many outerwear companies for wearers who wanted fine styling and rich appearance plus...

billkelsomfg.com

 

[Kermit3D]

A few photos of Bill Kelso's M422A jacket.
The collar looks much better. Nice shape, nice color, nice fur, not curly.

 

[Pilot]

A few photos of Bill Kelso's M422A jacket.
The collar looks much better. Nice shape, nice color, nice fur, not curly.

Very well made and constructed on the photos… no doubts the real thing will be the same!
Cudus to BK.

 

[Kermit3D]

And at last, a high-quality color photo of the period :

 

[Saint-ex]

I think the purpose of this collar was to simulate a worn-in look, much like the «100 missions» cockpit USA style!

But I totally agree that the BK seems more accurate.

 

[Kermit3D]

And once again, yesterday, as I was standing in line at the butcher's, when I saw the photo of the new ELC M-422A on my phone, my first reaction was : Wow! that's really cool !

 

[Pilot]

And once again, yesterday, as I was standing in line at the butcher's, when I saw the photo of the new ELC M-422A on my phone, my first reaction was : Wow! that's really cool !

Standing in line?
Cartes de rationements à nouveau dans le Micron-Paradis ?
Apologies, I am mean… but happy I am out also out of all lines

 

[Dany McDonald]

the purpose of this collar was to simulate a worn-in look

Isn't it obvious....?

The entire purpose of this jacket is a simulation, collar included.