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John Lever said:Surely you are confusing the m444 with the m445 ? The small collar of the m444 is the thing that I don't like most of all, it looks odd somehow particularly as it lacks a leather backing so won't stand up.
Absolutely right John my mistake, I was talking of the M445, I'm assuming (as I've never had one (M444)) that they both are boxy, although I'm lead to believe the M444 is a little shorter? I too prefer the M445 collar, although getting it zipped to the top in a fierce wind can give the impression that there's a wasp loose inside.