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Finally A Label!
- Thread starter FlyingToastman
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Anonymous
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can someone (Asian) translate this thread or run it through babelfish . It's fucking incomprehensible. But yes I agree not to not agree that it's an AN 3 or 3 or J.
asiamiles
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hacker said:As you can see it was an M442a without the mouton. All the other features i.e. wind flap, inside pocket, Talon zip, etc. were the same.
If that is an ANJ-3, and it looks to exactly the same as an ANJ-3a, then the jacket sometimes referred to on here as an ANJ-3 (with ep's and A-2 style windflap) is not an ANJ-3 but just a civilian jacket that occasionally got worn by military personnel. Correct? Can anyone ID the maker from the info given by the seller?
Swing
New Member
hacker said:
Obviously some jackets were made, if nothing more than testing purposes, and would have been issued to someone at some point for evaluation (most likely a statside flyer). The fact that they seem to be as rare or rarer than A-1s (at least we can find multiple photo examples of A-1s) leads me to believe if there were any contracts awards for AN-J-3s, they were extremely small (less than 1000 jackets).
I highly doubt the USAAF contracted for any AN-J-3s, and only had test samples. Reasoning behind this? Spring of '43 they had plenty of A-2s in the pipeline, and lots of A-2 contracts that hadn't been completed. Also, the B-10 was in development. That was the jacket they intended to replace the A-2. No reason for them to order AN-J-3s.
I believe Charles that he had a Navy contract AN-J-3. I don't doubt the Navy had a small contract for these jackets. And it wouldn't suprise me that at some point shortly after recieving the AN-J-3s, they were converted to AN-J-3As.
~Swing
Gentlemen,
This has been a very interesting discussion. The AN-J-3 is exactly the jacket I am looking for, and on one of the threads a while back asked about it "Bi-swing back, leather collar".
Does anyone make a good repo AN-J-3? What's the difference with the 'A' model?
Cheers,
- Steve
This has been a very interesting discussion. The AN-J-3 is exactly the jacket I am looking for, and on one of the threads a while back asked about it "Bi-swing back, leather collar".
Does anyone make a good repo AN-J-3? What's the difference with the 'A' model?
Cheers,
- Steve
zoomer
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The -3A was identical to the other Navy jackets, M-422A before and AN-6552 just after. Same specs, different pieces of paper in a different file folder at BuAer.
The -3, with epaulets and outside zipflap, is reproed by Gibson & Barnes.
Aero used to do one but appear to have taken it off their website.
The -3, with epaulets and outside zipflap, is reproed by Gibson & Barnes.
Aero used to do one but appear to have taken it off their website.
So what jacket appears in Asiamiles picture? No epaulets, an internal wind flap and a leather collar?
Seems like we've got three versions here:
1. -3A
2. -3 with epaulets and external wind flap
3. -3 without epaulets and internal wind flap (pictured above).
Anyone seen originals of all these variants?
Regards,
- Steve
Seems like we've got three versions here:
1. -3A
2. -3 with epaulets and external wind flap
3. -3 without epaulets and internal wind flap (pictured above).
Anyone seen originals of all these variants?
Regards,
- Steve
hacker
Active Member
SteveN said:
In the photo I posted, it states it is a AN-J-3, and most likely a test model. The -3A model is the same but with a mouton collar and was a production model that began in late 1943. There is no version that you state in example 2 that was ever a military issue jacket......
Hacker
Say, didn't Seniko have one of these jackets a while back? I don't remember exactly what it was, but I think he did post some detailed pics of it. Can anyone get to the old forum to check that thread? If he did post, it's hard to believe he would not have posted one of the label, if it had one.
- SteveN
- SteveN
Peter Graham
Well-Known Member
As far as I remember it did not have a label.SteveN said:
greyhound52
New Member
Peter
You are right it did not have a label it was from a WASP if I remember correctly was a great looking jacket.
You are right it did not have a label it was from a WASP if I remember correctly was a great looking jacket.
STEVE S.
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here's a few pics of mine. it's for sure a w&g & is identical in every way to the one on john's cd. still a mystery as the liner was cut out along with any tags when i got it. the liner was the reddish cotton same as some of the a-2's, not the rayon navy type. i have all the materials to rebuild & hoped to have completed to wear this winter, but 16hr days in the shop have killed any hope of working on it. maybe next year!
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Anonymous
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There was also some discussion of this WASP's jacket over on the FL some time back.
hacker said:
So, wanting one of these, and having read this thread through, there's still one question remaining:
Has anyone ever seen one of these jackets with a label? No epps or external windflap? Essentially it appears to be the M-422A with a leather collar. If that's the case, it should be easy enough to have RMNZ reproduce one.
Cheers,
- SteveN
