I have never had a fitting problem with Eastman jackets, I can confidently pick a jacket and know my size will fit, however, I don't really like the collar-stand jackets, repro or original. Like GW, ELC will work with a customer on getting the correct fit but obviously not in the re-issue department. I am sure Gary will be helpful.
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ELC Rough Wear 1401 sz. 44 - fitting problem/question
- Thread starter lazar
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First of all I wanted to thank you all for the input!
Here is the update.
Last week on Tuesday I called Gary and told him my problems with the jacket and he promised to look through the mail I sent him. The mail included the pictures that were posted here.
This Tuesday I recived a package from ELC. In the package was a 1401 in size 42. Unfortunately he dindn´t conact me beforehand, so I had no possibility to discuss my problems and the fact, that I would rather try another contract.
The jacket was also well made, and the fit in the shoulders/the shoulder span was as I think it should be, but the jacket is IMHO to small. I felt like I would wear a suit left over from my confirmation! And to me the collar-fit felt weird again. That might be the make of this special contract and historically correct, but then this contract is not made for me/my bodytype.
So this jacket is again on the way back to the UK.
I hope I will be able to discuss the replacement this time!
Mathias
Here is the update.
Last week on Tuesday I called Gary and told him my problems with the jacket and he promised to look through the mail I sent him. The mail included the pictures that were posted here.
This Tuesday I recived a package from ELC. In the package was a 1401 in size 42. Unfortunately he dindn´t conact me beforehand, so I had no possibility to discuss my problems and the fact, that I would rather try another contract.
The jacket was also well made, and the fit in the shoulders/the shoulder span was as I think it should be, but the jacket is IMHO to small. I felt like I would wear a suit left over from my confirmation! And to me the collar-fit felt weird again. That might be the make of this special contract and historically correct, but then this contract is not made for me/my bodytype.
So this jacket is again on the way back to the UK.
I hope I will be able to discuss the replacement this time!
Mathias
Steve Canyon
Well-Known Member
Very slim-fit, like a harness, despite sleeve-lenght OK...
I recommend a well-made size 44; maybe a GW or Aeroleather.
I recommend a well-made size 44; maybe a GW or Aeroleather.
fishmeok
Well-Known Member
Just from my own experience making patterns and jackets I would say you need at least an inch longer in the arms and body and another inch or two across the chest and the middle of the back- the shoulder to shoulder looks good. Jackets like that 42 LOOK great and slim but they are like the old designer jeans from the 80's- look great if you just stand around, but if you actually try to walk or move or anything they are very uncomfortable. The collar stand will lie down of you use the hot water treatment and beat it up, but I would suggest trying a jacket without a collar stand first.
Goodwear is probably your best bet as John can make whatever alterations are necissary and recommend the best contract for your body type. Good excuse to hop the channel and visit Eastman though, and try on several different jackets....
Cheers
Mark
Goodwear is probably your best bet as John can make whatever alterations are necissary and recommend the best contract for your body type. Good excuse to hop the channel and visit Eastman though, and try on several different jackets....
Cheers
Mark
lazar said:First of all I wanted to thank you all for the input!
Here is the update.
Last week on Tuesday I called Gary and told him my problems with the jacket and he promised to look through the mail I sent him. The mail included the pictures that were posted here.
This Tuesday I recived a package from ELC. In the package was a 1401 in size 42. Unfortunately he dindn´t conact me beforehand, so I had no possibility to discuss my problems and the fact, that I would rather try another contract.
The jacket was also well made, and the fit in the shoulders/the shoulder span was as I think it should be, but the jacket is IMHO to small. I felt like I would wear a suit left over from my confirmation! And to me the collar-fit felt weird again. That might be the make of this special contract and historically correct, but then this contract is not made for me/my bodytype.
So this jacket is again on the way back to the UK.
I hope I will be able to discuss the replacement this time!
Mathias
a snug military fit if i may say so..........
better duck
Well-Known Member
Grant said:
You're right ahead of me there: fit looks great, and very likely will feel OK too if you just keep wearing it, may hotwater-treat it a bit.
The first time I got my ELC Werber out of the box and on my frame, or my GW Dubow GS in 46 for that matter, they felt restrictive too. Now you won't hear me complain any more: they are formfitting on my frame, and that feels great.
And like you say: the collar will ease up too.
So I wouldn't be too hasty returning it either.
To show what I am talking about, fitwise, here are three photos:
The first of my ELC Werber size 46 when right out of the box:
Then, one year later (and esp. notice how the collar has moved out of the way):
The third is my GW Dubow GS 46 when brand new:
Cobblers161
Well-Known Member
Hey Peter,
You have any shots of the Dubow a few months down the line? Sure is purrrdddy!
You have any shots of the Dubow a few months down the line? Sure is purrrdddy!
Steve Canyon
Well-Known Member
Doubt isn't a good sign.....jacketimp said:
better duck
Well-Known Member
Cobblers161 said:
Not yet, but I'll ask my daughter to shoot some, then I'll post.
A
Anonymous
Guest
I kind of like the fit of the first one. At least that looked comfortable. Once it broke in I bet it would look fine. You look very confined in that small/short jacket.
bseal
Well-Known Member
Grant said:
From experience with both collarstand and non collarstand A-2s by ELC, G&B, Real McCoys, LWs, Aero, and GW, I would advise that the fit seen in your size ELC 42 photos is accurate.
The A-2, while smart and classic looking, isn't necessarily the most comfortable leather jacket ever made, especially for certain body types.
WWII AAF & AAC servicemen at public events will candidly tell you that they prefer the fit of their 80's Member's Only cloth jackets over A-2s.
As J.C. and the other individuals here have mentioned, a different contract, to some extent, might be a better option. Just don't forget about the break in period that virtually all require, regardless of contract.
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P.S. ELC's most comfortable jacket is their capeskin A-1. (Always pushing my agenda.)
