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AVI LTHR BRONCO A-2 Jacket Review & Pics
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herk115
Active Member
That would be me.
The auction lists the item location as Illinois. I ordered a jacket. A few days later I got a text from DHL informing me my package "from Karachi, Pakistan" will arrive on such and so date (which is tomorrow, June 6). The ad is adamant that no returns will b emade for poor fit, but if the jacket turns out to be a real POS and not the jacket shown, I'm sure I'll have an even chance or better of getting a refund because "item sent is not the item shown." I'll try, anyway. But WTF...wait and see. Who knows? I may like it.
herk115
Active Member
Well,
I got a reply from londonretailer -50, and they definitely get an "A" for effort, as they found somebody in Pakistan to make pictures of the actual jacket.
Are the jacket from the auction photo and the actual jacket identical...? Hmmm, tough call...not! Missing the rivets for the neck hook, different leather, color, knitwear, stitching...
Best regards,
Ties
Looks like the epaulets are sewn down to the shoulders.
Brettafett
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Hi all,
Morton from AVI LTHR has sent me a link to the CSR text they have just published on their website.
I thought you may find it interesting. If anyone has any further queries, please contact them directly.
https://avilthr.com/service/#PRODUCTION
I also gathered that they have acquired an original Perry A-2 and will be reproducing this later in the year. I'm not sure of the specific contract or any other details, but am pretty excited to see how this one turns out.
If my Bronco is anything to go by, this should be another excellent addition to their line-up. Happy days!
Morton from AVI LTHR has sent me a link to the CSR text they have just published on their website.
I thought you may find it interesting. If anyone has any further queries, please contact them directly.
https://avilthr.com/service/#PRODUCTION
I also gathered that they have acquired an original Perry A-2 and will be reproducing this later in the year. I'm not sure of the specific contract or any other details, but am pretty excited to see how this one turns out.
If my Bronco is anything to go by, this should be another excellent addition to their line-up. Happy days!
Smithy
Well-Known Member
I'm not an A-2 expert so if anyone can weigh in and tell me what would suit me out of a Bronco and Perry pattern, please do as it would be much appreciated.
Honest assessment of my build, I'm 6'2'', 183 lbs, lean but with fairly broad shoulders and some muscle on my upper body.
I was thinking the Perry might be the better bet what with it having a bit of room in the upper arms according to John's pattern summaries?
Honest assessment of my build, I'm 6'2'', 183 lbs, lean but with fairly broad shoulders and some muscle on my upper body.
I was thinking the Perry might be the better bet what with it having a bit of room in the upper arms according to John's pattern summaries?
Skip
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Depends how you want to look and feel in it Tim. You're probably broader shouldered than me, and from what you say have an athletic look, reckon you'd slam it in a Bronco, the design is made for our builds. The drawback, depending on the measurements of course, is that movement maybe more restrictive. I've gotten used to that now and actually enjoy the snugger fit, and the leather does stretch some. My Elc Werber was real snug in the shoulders but has increased due to wear by half an inch. The Bronco should be less snug fit than a Werber though and the Perry less snug again. It all depends on the measurements they make up for the jacket and every maker is different, just to make it even more confusing.
Smithy
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Thanks Matt for the advice. The big thing that worried me about the Bronco is how the upper arms are meant to be on the tight side (according to John). I'm not Schwarzenegger in the upper arm department but I workout a bit so I've got a bit of meat topsides. The shoulders on the Bronco and Perry sound as if they're on the wider side for A-2 patterns so you're probably right, it comes down to the kind of fit I'm looking for, the Bronco being a little snugger and sharper than the Perry.
Dr H
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The Perry is more forgiving of a wider torso/wide shoulders (as I found having owned 4 or 5 originals and repros). The only issue would be length of torso - it's my favourite pattern, but in the end I realised that they were just too short for most occasions unless I was wearing high waisted trousers (which I do in the workplace, but less at home).
Smithy
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Many thanks for that Dr H, if the Perry runs on the short side then that could be a deal breaker for me due to my height. Because AVI will be basing the pattern on an original Perry then it stands to reason that the idiosyncrasies of the pattern will be present in their repro.
Looking at the sizing chart for their Bronco, I'm fairly certain that the 44 should fit me nicely. And I do happen to like the collar shape better on the Bronco. It's just the upper arm thing which is niggling me.
Greg Gale
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I'm by no means an expert, and I'm not familiar with the Perry contract, but the main thing everyone keeps repeating about the Bronco is the wide shoulders. Even if the upper arm is snugger, the broad shoulders always allow for good arm movement, especially when driving. If the Perry is a looser fit it will be looser everywhere, and if you have a slim, athletic build, that might not be what you want. This being said I'm so looking forward to their Perry! Do you think it will be made of goatskin too?
Persimmon
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With my trousers I love my Perry !!
But for you young whipersnappers who need flexibility as you can’t decide which contract A2 to wear what about a pair of these....
Smithy
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Good point Greg. I might just bite the bullet and go for the Bronco, the measurements fit and by all accounts my build should fit the pattern well.
I'm not sure about the Perry, apparently originals were both HH and goat. They might only offer goat to keep the cost down and because they already have supplies of it.
I fly fish Persimmon so I suppose there is that with a Perry, I could wear it over my waders when fishing!
Skip
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whats your shoulder measurement Tim in a good fit jacket and compare to the 44 which is 48cm (19")? I usually take a 40 and my shoulder width in a slim fit t-shirt is 17 1/2 " which is dead on the money but rather tight in a A2 as Im slightly between 40-42 depending on contract, I can handle the tightness but it is restrictive. so I find I generally opt for shoulders 18 and go from there, you can always increase or decrease length if the maker allows that of course. I'm thinking would be best to get your measurements in a slim shirt or good fitting jacket if you have one and then work off those against what the size lists. which is what I did with the ELC Werber and talked it over with Rob. And of course talk with the maker they usually know what a fit will be like if you give them your measurements.
Broncos were made late in the war and had a USN style with wider shoulders, and slimmer waist but good length.
Broncos were made late in the war and had a USN style with wider shoulders, and slimmer waist but good length.
Dr H
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On the other hand, the best fitting A-2 that I've worn was actually a Good Wear Dubow 27798 (it was posted here again recently) as the width in the shoulders/upper body was great for movement, perfectly long enough, yet not at all baggy.
