AVI LTHR BRONCO A-2 Jacket Review & Pics

[Silver Surfer]

so where do i find the english translation site for taobao, and the " risk rider" a-2? seems the ones that i can find are in chinese....all of them. when i went to proxy taobao sites, they did not bring up "risk rider". any of you guys able to guide an older computer illiterate alice through the rabbit hole?

 

[Technonut2112]

so where do i find the english translation site for taobao, and the " risk rider" a-2? seems the ones that i can find are in chinese....all of them. when i went to proxy taobao sites, they did not bring up "risk rider". any of you guys able to guide an older computer illiterate alice through the rabbit hole?

Try this:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.engtaobao.com/item/523378203325.html

Looks like a VERY sweet veg-tanned HH jacket for certain..

• Italian imported vegetable tanned horseskin (old-fashioned tanning process, natural coloring of fruit trees, non-modern chemical dyeing, cortical texture treatment according to the first year A2 ), leather thickness is about 1.2 - 1.3mm
• Full wool seamless rib
• Vintage brown cotton plain weave (domestic only cotton plain)
• Coats cotton sewing line
• Japanese made WALDES zipper (replica 1942 TALON zipper style)
• (The zipper is also available with our collection of Talon zips from the US military stocks more than 70 years ago, detailed below)
• Japanese black bronze military regulations "Ball Stud" four buckle
• Replica wooden shuttle collar

EDIT: Here's a couple pics of BK's RW 23380... The 'Risk Rider' looks damn near as good to my eyes:

 

[Pilot]

...hmmm, Pilot, you do realise that Boeing have the 737 fuselage manufactured in China and fly them to the US in a special conversion Dreamliner ?

Sure I know...same for Airbus...and Embraer in Brazil...
( plus my iPhone and iPad are made in China...)
My post was about repros..fakes..copies, lookalikes etc....not about a licenced production.

 

[Technonut2112]

I didn't notice this when I copied & pasted about the 'Risk Rider'... Another high-end option: For $679.00 USD + the period Talon cost, I WILL be setting some $$ aside for this one.. Looks like they make up to a size 46 as well.

(The zipper is also available with our collection of Talon zips from the US military stocks more than 70 years ago, detailed below)

 

[zoomer]

I like it! But I guarangoddamtee their 46 won't fit me (suit size 46).

Eastern makers seem to have developed a jacket scheme where the extra room in the chest only goes up 2 cm (3/4") for every 2 inch increase in tag size. When the difference reaches 0, they offer nothing larger.

AVILTHR starts off at size 38, with a 40" actual measure. By 48, the actual measure is 48". So the more room you need, the less you get! Seems like a scam to me!

 

[Brettafett]

I have that problem with sleeve length.

 

[zoomer]

The AVI chart is not the worst of it...an outfit called Blue In Green offered a 37J1 a few years ago in 36-46. Size 36 had 4" extra thru the chest, 46 had zero.

 

[Silver Surfer]

hmmmm.....odd, they do not list the areas per chest, length, sleeves etc in english in their measurements. and, i thought they had the same rw in russet. cant find it.

 

[Technonut2112]

hmmmm.....odd, they do not list the areas per chest, length, sleeves etc in english in their measurements. and, i thought they had the same rw in russet. cant find it.

From what I see for the size 44 by what makes sense, since I have been down this road before deciphering: (Rounded-Off from CM's to inches)

Chest: 47"
Shoulders: 19"
Sleeves: 26"
Length: 26"

The 42 would be:

Chest: 45.5"
Shoulders: 18.5"
Sleeves: 25.5"
Length: 25.5"

The 40 would be:

Chest: 44"
Shoulders: 18"
Sleeves: 25"
Back Length: 25"

 

[Kennyz]

This is my previous AVI seal Bronco. I received this a few months back and its one of my go-too jackets.
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Posting here, so you can compare with the 'upgraded' version.
This seal goatskin was slightly thinner and more malleable, but oh so comfortable.
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I took some Surgical Spirits to it the other day, for a light, subtle rub-over... and it looks fantastic.
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Just removed some of the surface sheen and lightly burnished the high points... due to the grain, the effect is very nice.
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The original review of this jacket can be found here:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/avi-lthr-bronco-a-2-jacket-review-pics.92117/

Thank you Brett for your review. The jackets look like a perfect fit for you. I'm really liking the look and value of the AVI A-2's.

Ken

 

[Spitfireace]

I have that problem with sleeve length.

I have the same problem because I'm 38 size but short at five four so I can't order a standard 38 because the sleeves are too long. I don't mind the body extra length but the arms obviously can't be too long. I have a CWU 36-P having the sleeves shortened right now because my arms are like 23 inches instead of 25. My CVC jacket came in short length. But CWU's do not. So If I order a jacket it has to be custom... but oddly enough I have an original A-2 that the sleeves are perfect length. I think the guys were generally shorter back then.

 

[Thomas Koehle]

I think the guys were generally shorter back then.

Definitely!

If I try to find period garment of the 40ies / 50ies over here in Germany - no matter civilian or military is almost impossible to find anything that really fits me (I’m a 44 chest) and if yes sleeves are generally too short ...

 

[Spitfireace]

co-incidence? I think not....

 

[Spitfireace]

As far as authenticity..... either you pay for it or not.. I mean a NOS Talon is more expensive than a repro....

 

[zoomer]

Fortunately the day when you had 2 choices, mall jacket or high-end repro, are gone. There are now degrees of authenticity/price, but only for small to average size men.

 

[Technonut2112]

Fortunately there are now degrees of authenticity/price, but only for small to average size men.

Going by the scale of the above measurements I posted for the 'Risk Rider", the size 46 which they did not list measurements for should be (roughly) around:

Chest: 49-49.5"
Shoulders: 20-21"
Sleeves: 26.5-27"
Length: 26.5-27"

 

[zoomer]

Should be. But won't!!!

 

[Technonut2112]

Should be. But won't!!!

Why's that? I've purchased 4-5 jackets from China, and all of them were within the listed measurements (I'm a 44). The scale of measurements from 40-44 look about right. The 46 should scale-up as well.

 

[zoomer]

Not if they don’t want anyone that big as a customer...

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/review-customize-m422-and-55j14-jacket-on-ebay.94522/

Interesting review on one of the Pakistan made $200 jackets