Pa12
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Believe it or not Steve, I first heard the term from a friend’s very conservative wife. Made it even funnier. Almost pissed myself.
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Acres of Pant
- Thread starter ZuZu
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B-Man2
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First for me as well
Pa12
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Go forth with it young manFirst for me as well
ZuZu
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No definite body? 90% of the guys in WW2 AAF pictures have proportionally a much smaller upper body- it's a fact. My Dad was the same height as me yet he wore a 40L all his life- I'm a 44. "Big Jim" just helps prove my point by being the exception.Totally disagree on the high-waisted, baggy legs trousers, but that shouldn't come as a surprise for anyone who even remotely knows me
That being said, there's no definite body for WW2 neither. Let me introduce you to "Big" Jim Streig, 5.5 victories with VF-17 during WW2:
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These guys may look cool but would look pretty silly walking around like that now.This movie was more accurate in terms of fit. Pretty damn cool if you ask me:
A rant? Maybe although I think an honest assessment is more accurate. Big balloon pants with baggy butts may be cool on some guys but 99% don't wear that stuff today for a reason. And my point really was that the WW2 American male body tended to emphasize a weird large-hipped big-asses feminine look. It's there in many photos- I'm just pointing it out!
CBI
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the troubles with OCD jacket folks. A-2's look really odd with sweatpants, bulky running shoes, skeleton skinny jeans, etc. BUT wearing more period correct attire can look totally costume-ish. For the most part, the costume folks say, "I wear what I want and I don't care what people think" which is healthy, good for them! But that fact of the matter is, one can look pretty ridiculous in all out vintage. Somewhere in the middle makes sense to me.
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Pa12
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Now THAT sentence has a definitive answer
B-Man2
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“ Opinions are like” ….. political pundits, they don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground?
Well … You asked ……
YoungMedic
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I just read this on ATF's site
"Our trousers are the Wartime cut which have a high waist, full thigh and seat. Trousers made from the 1930's until mid-1942 had a a closer fit like normal dress trousers, which looks far more attractive but field use leads to split seat and crotch seams. Complaints from the troops were dismissed by the QMC at first, but a deluge of letters from officers finally led to the pattern being altered. The thigh, seat and rise were substantially increased to give better freedom of movement for squatting, kneeling, crawling and running."
Might explain the generous or "feminine" appearance of wartime pants.
"Our trousers are the Wartime cut which have a high waist, full thigh and seat. Trousers made from the 1930's until mid-1942 had a a closer fit like normal dress trousers, which looks far more attractive but field use leads to split seat and crotch seams. Complaints from the troops were dismissed by the QMC at first, but a deluge of letters from officers finally led to the pattern being altered. The thigh, seat and rise were substantially increased to give better freedom of movement for squatting, kneeling, crawling and running."
Might explain the generous or "feminine" appearance of wartime pants.
ZuZu
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Opinions are like well- the life blood of any forum!
Nice jacket!
Great leather!
Nice fit!
You really scored on that one!
Wow- way to go!
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Shanghai-Mayne
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I second on Zuzu’s latest post.
Micawber
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I would agree with that. A looser cut allows for greater freedom and ease of movement. Probably more fact than opinion but for the sake of discussion and maintaining a healthy forum I'll say that is my opinion.
I actually like fishtail back, high waist trousers worn with a pair of braces [or suspenders]. I find that combination the most comfortable for my lifestyle activities.
Pa12
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The aircrews probably needed extra room for their brass balls
Cocker
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Out of interest, where do you get your fishtail trousers? I've been looking at a couple brands in UK for these, namely Darcy Clothing and Revival Vintage, as I'd really like to try one pair with braces, indeed.
Micawber
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I have a couple of pairs of fishtail cords from Darcy Clothing but prefer the ones I have from Old Town Clothing who are based not too far away from me in Holt, a town in north Norfolk. They are not cheap mind you and they are sticklers about their own patterns being their own designs and not slavishly copied from vintage examples. Their trousers and jackets are cut and made up in house.
Old Town - British clothing designer and maker
Garments are chosen from an evolving menu of everyday styles and available to order from our own workshop.
I suppose the photo examples may come across a bit costume-ish but most clothing producers are on that band wagon.
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Cocker
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Oh yeah, Old Town Clothing! I was in touch with them by mail a couple years ago, as I was very interested in their high-rise trousers, but sadly they weren't willing to ship out of UK.I have a couple of pairs of fishtail cords from Darcy Clothing but prefer the ones I have from Old Town Clothing who are based not too far away from me in Holt, a town in north Norfolk. They are not cheap mind you and they are sticklers about their own patterns being their own designs and not slavishly copied from vintage examples. Their trousers and jackets are cut and made up in house.
Old Town - British clothing designer and maker
Garments are chosen from an evolving menu of everyday styles and available to order from our own workshop.www.old-town.co.uk
I suppose the photo examples may come across a bit costume-ish but most clothing producers are on that band wagon.
Micawber
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They can be, how shall I put it, a bit eccentric, old fashioned even.. I think their order books are always full so possibly they can't spare the time to deal with the additional admin demands caused by Brexit, but I'm guessing about that. I called into their place in Holt a couple of times and got a bit of a frosty reception as I had not made an appointment but I can cope with frosty especially after things warmed up after saying I had ordered from them previously. I enjoyed going through and selecting bargains from their made up stock rails which they have for the occasional pop up shop they did in London.
