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Aces High Jackets
- Thread starter John Lever
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Andrew
Well-Known Member
Don't really know what most makers do. RMNZ do a small tag sewn into the left pocket flap of their A-2's but that's probably just because they want to identify their own stuff as the spec label is a copy of the original. My GW's dont but they're early models. Jon's company name is on his label but it could easily be removed as per originals.
It's just a personal opinion of mine that it would be good if makers identified their repro work as such to make it harder for crooks or those otherwise ignorant to pass off something as original. You see that happen all the time. It's a topic often discussed by collectors of things other than VLJ's as things become rarer and more expensive. Jon's Irvins definitely look as though they will age well at least to the point that even if you knew what you were looking for you would only pick that by handling it- not something you can often do as a buyer.
It's just a personal opinion of mine that it would be good if makers identified their repro work as such to make it harder for crooks or those otherwise ignorant to pass off something as original. You see that happen all the time. It's a topic often discussed by collectors of things other than VLJ's as things become rarer and more expensive. Jon's Irvins definitely look as though they will age well at least to the point that even if you knew what you were looking for you would only pick that by handling it- not something you can often do as a buyer.
Andrew
Well-Known Member
Ok there's probably more folks who are unsure or don't know than crooks. I'd expect the average person reselling wouldn't remove an identifying tag, but at least it'd clearly indicate to an uninitiated buyer one or two down down the line or those who see that mark in an auction its not original. We've all seen many repro items sold as orig by people who dont know but still would like to think that what they have is the real deal-everyone wants to believe. I see it becoming more of an issue in time.
Having only owned originals but wanting to one day get a fabo repro Irvin, placing some subtle and tiny tell wouldn't bother me at all. Maybe Micro chipping is the way to go.
Having only owned originals but wanting to one day get a fabo repro Irvin, placing some subtle and tiny tell wouldn't bother me at all. Maybe Micro chipping is the way to go.
jonnyboy
Member
Hi Guys,
Some kind of hidden label, or mark to identify the jacket as repros is not a bad idea. I might look at sewing a label into one of the inner sleeve seems, or maybe under one the sleeve zips. Or maybe a small, subtle stamp into the leather on the collar back?
Anyway, in the meantime, here's one happy customer - F/O 'Pussycat' Palmer of No. 1 Squadron:
Cheers,
Jon
Some kind of hidden label, or mark to identify the jacket as repros is not a bad idea. I might look at sewing a label into one of the inner sleeve seems, or maybe under one the sleeve zips. Or maybe a small, subtle stamp into the leather on the collar back?
Anyway, in the meantime, here's one happy customer - F/O 'Pussycat' Palmer of No. 1 Squadron:
Cheers,
Jon
John Lever
Moderator
Jon,
Did the new sheepskin arrive yet ?
Did the new sheepskin arrive yet ?
CryptoDave
New Member
Just ordered an Aces High Model 1941.
Jon was very helpful in the process, really knows his stuff.
Jon was very helpful in the process, really knows his stuff.
jonnyboy
Member
Thanks again Dave!
I'll keep you up-to-date with your jacket's progress when I start making it.
John - I have a small quantity of the new skins, and am expecting more soon. It's difficult to get suppliers to pull their finger out when you're a small one-man company. A bit like shouting into the wind! Still, it's great sheepskin - they've done a great job.
Cheers,
Jon
I'll keep you up-to-date with your jacket's progress when I start making it.
John - I have a small quantity of the new skins, and am expecting more soon. It's difficult to get suppliers to pull their finger out when you're a small one-man company. A bit like shouting into the wind! Still, it's great sheepskin - they've done a great job.
Cheers,
Jon
flyboy
Member
Having tried both an original Irvin and one of Jon's jackets I can only say that they are much closer to the real thing, than any other repro I have ever tried on. (ALC, ELC and AERO)
Much softer/lighter than most repros, which tend to be heavy, stiff and bulky.
Plus a truly great craftsmanship.
So there is all the reasons in the world, Smithy!
Much softer/lighter than most repros, which tend to be heavy, stiff and bulky.
Plus a truly great craftsmanship.
So there is all the reasons in the world, Smithy!
