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A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jacket!
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ButteMT61
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Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
I disagree in part. I think they effed up here (and elsewhere) to the point where keeping down low was a good choice. They'd do well to keep hush until they have a product and start clean. I'm sure some will want to buy, and I also am equally sure some here (and elsewhere) were extremely turned-off and wouldn't touch it. We all make mistakes, and we should all have a chance to redeem. But the critical factor in such things is the appropriate amount of time and contrition.
philip.ed said:
I disagree in part. I think they effed up here (and elsewhere) to the point where keeping down low was a good choice. They'd do well to keep hush until they have a product and start clean. I'm sure some will want to buy, and I also am equally sure some here (and elsewhere) were extremely turned-off and wouldn't touch it. We all make mistakes, and we should all have a chance to redeem. But the critical factor in such things is the appropriate amount of time and contrition.
John Lever
Moderator
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
Yes the PR was a dister,but VLJ is only a small place.philip.ed said:
ButteMT61
Well-Known Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
Interesting take. I'd wager a jacket maker would not want this group pissed off, but what do I know...maybe it is too small to care. But between this and tfl, there's lots of potential customers - with money to spend.
John Lever said:
Interesting take. I'd wager a jacket maker would not want this group pissed off, but what do I know...maybe it is too small to care. But between this and tfl, there's lots of potential customers - with money to spend.
John Lever
Moderator
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
Poor Andrew really got it in the neck and I think it's time to give him a break.
My point is that there are members here who will just slag the project no matter what they do. After an unfortunate start, why not let them make the jacket and then post on it's merits rather than on moral outrage by proxy ?ButteMT61 said:
Poor Andrew really got it in the neck and I think it's time to give him a break.
Ian C
New Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
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My point is that there are members here who will just slag the project no matter what they do. After an unfortunate start, why not let them make the jacket and then post on it's merits rather than on moral outrage by proxy ?
Poor Andrew really got it in the neck and I think it's time to give him a break.[/quote]
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My point is that there are members here who will just slag the project no matter what they do. After an unfortunate start, why not let them make the jacket and then post on it's merits rather than on moral outrage by proxy ?
Poor Andrew really got it in the neck and I think it's time to give him a break.[/quote]
+1
ButteMT61
Well-Known Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
My point is that there are members here who will just slag the project no matter what they do. After an unfortunate start, why not let them make the jacket and then post on it's merits rather than on moral outrage by proxy ?
Poor Andrew really got it in the neck and I think it's time to give him a break.[/quote]
+1[/quote]
As I said previously...
"We all make mistakes, and we should all have a chance to redeem. But the critical factor in such things is the appropriate amount of time and contrition..."
I would never slag a project on it's own merits, or lack thereof. I vote with dollars.
My point is that there are members here who will just slag the project no matter what they do. After an unfortunate start, why not let them make the jacket and then post on it's merits rather than on moral outrage by proxy ?
Poor Andrew really got it in the neck and I think it's time to give him a break.[/quote]
+1[/quote]
As I said previously...
"We all make mistakes, and we should all have a chance to redeem. But the critical factor in such things is the appropriate amount of time and contrition..."
I would never slag a project on it's own merits, or lack thereof. I vote with dollars.
ausreenactor
Well-Known Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
To me a grudge is somewhere you park your car..
Couchy
philip.ed said:
To me a grudge is somewhere you park your car..
Couchy
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
I have been absent a very long, long time from our forum, aside from a too quick glance occasionally, sorry to hear of so many sad events, Davids' passing, he could almost be considered the Forums archivist, Aero Leathers USA rep's problems and impact on members, Mark and I collaborated on a great FQHH A-2, a favorite, I found him to be honest and a pleasure to deal with. BUT this nonsense with the Irvins', I of course agree that the "timing" of this "momentous" announcement of the " definitive" Irvin, from what I understand after reading all posts, is for only a few deemed worthy after extensive DNA testing proves one of their ancestors buggered a specific sheep between 1938 - 1939, is suspicious.
In all seriousness I am a 10 year+ member of this Forum and it's ancestors, and unfortunately there have been "shills"pushing the agenda of EVERY single repro maker, past and present, from day one, whether overtly or covertly. For better or for worse it appears to have been the impetus for those concerned to "up their game"and bring us to where we are today, Goodwear, Jon, Kelso, etc. I would bottom line this thread by agreeing with the member who said, vote with your dollars, everything else is debris - tom
I have been absent a very long, long time from our forum, aside from a too quick glance occasionally, sorry to hear of so many sad events, Davids' passing, he could almost be considered the Forums archivist, Aero Leathers USA rep's problems and impact on members, Mark and I collaborated on a great FQHH A-2, a favorite, I found him to be honest and a pleasure to deal with. BUT this nonsense with the Irvins', I of course agree that the "timing" of this "momentous" announcement of the " definitive" Irvin, from what I understand after reading all posts, is for only a few deemed worthy after extensive DNA testing proves one of their ancestors buggered a specific sheep between 1938 - 1939, is suspicious.
In all seriousness I am a 10 year+ member of this Forum and it's ancestors, and unfortunately there have been "shills"pushing the agenda of EVERY single repro maker, past and present, from day one, whether overtly or covertly. For better or for worse it appears to have been the impetus for those concerned to "up their game"and bring us to where we are today, Goodwear, Jon, Kelso, etc. I would bottom line this thread by agreeing with the member who said, vote with your dollars, everything else is debris - tom
CryptoDave
New Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
Did these jackets ever make it to the market?
Did these jackets ever make it to the market?
CryptoDave
New Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
Thanks
Thanks
John Lever
Moderator
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
R.I.P.
R.I.P.
