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A-1 Horsehides from Shanghai

Persimmon

Well-Known Member
No No and No again.
I have the Eastman A1 and its so damn good to wear.
Oh and its a lovely soft Cape and not best quality Horse ( Or a Well tanned Dog perhaps !! )
Save your money please.
Alan
 

zoomer

Well-Known Member
Nitpick nitpick nitpick. I'll join in :D
My criticism is it's a little short in the sleeves and bod for a 46.
Also: they put Army into the header, then rip off the US-Authentic web page copy that says it was Navy issue.
Also also: you don't want heavy horsehide in an A-1, or indeed, heavy anything.
 

John Lever

Moderator
I think it looks pretty good to me. The wooden buttons are an anomaly, but the leather and the cut look OK.
At the price it's good value, but only 'eyes on ' would tell.
I think they are from Singapore. Spearhead have been going for a while.
 

PADDY_M

Well-Known Member
Doesn't look 'too shabby' at all on first glance. As John comments, you really need to 'see' and 'feel' the garment in person to make any informed judgement on it. New jacket in horse-hide at that price...
 

John Lever

Moderator
I contacted them to see if the jacket was available without the arm decal. I hope I am correct in that they would not have had them back in the 1930's.
Here's their reply -
Hi there,
Thanks for your advice, we will not have the decal attached on the A-1 jacket, the USAAF decal is just a free gift, we offer it as a GWP with our B10, B15 jackets and A-2 jackets as well, we always send the jacket with the AAF patch separate. we will have some US army air corps patches available at this April.
Best Regards
Barry
 

zoomer

Well-Known Member
deand said:
Shouldn't the collar have been fully closed when buttoned up?
Yes. Major mistake - easy to avoid but difficult to correct unless the collar and jacket seam are flush on both sides (pic).
FWICS, it doesn't look like it - the collar might have to be taken off and reattached.

Now to the leather thickness. They're shrewd to advertise it in millimeters.
According to this chart, 1.6 mm is equivalent to 4 oz.
The typical high-end A-2 repro is ±3 oz (1.2 mm).
Typically A-1s were cape, and lighter yet.
So this jacket could potentially be WAY too heavy.
 

m444uk

Active Member
John Lever said:
I contacted them to see if the jacket was available without the arm decal. I hope I am correct in that they would not have had them back in the 1930's.
Here's their reply -
Hi there,
Thanks for your advice, we will not have the decal attached on the A-1 jacket, the USAAF decal is just a free gift, we offer it as a GWP with our B10, B15 jackets and A-2 jackets as well, we always send the jacket with the AAF patch separate. we will have some US army air corps patches available at this April.
Best Regards
Barry

They make a massive range of stuff but often the details let them down.
The pockets etc. are out of proportion and the camo patterns a bit to bright.

http://cgi.ebay.com/USAAF-Type-A-2-Seal ... 0109690945

http://cgi.ebay.com/WW2-British-Paratro ... 0109673689
 

zoomer

Well-Known Member
But that might be the tipping point where it's no longer worth making in volume - ie, status quo all over again.
 

442RCT

New Member
John Lever said:
I can't see where the made in China is mentioned in the listing.

That jacket looks like the jacket on this Chinese auction site, right down to the wooden buttons. Also the seller is based in Singpore, so we're guessing the jackets are of Chinese manufacture.

With the thickness of the hide 4 oz., these jackets reminds me of the LW offerings, which many say is too thick, but study and bulletproof. :?

http://item.taobao.com/auction/item_det ... 2c6123.htm
 

zoomer

Well-Known Member
zoomer said:
deand said:
Shouldn't the collar have been fully closed when buttoned up?
Yes. Major mistake - easy to avoid but difficult to correct unless the collar and jacket seam are flush on both sides (pic).
FWICS, it doesn't look like it - the collar might have to be taken off and reattached.
The taobao pix include some of the collar unbuttoned. Problem seems to be button placement. Easy fix.
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The hide does have a "hard drape," however, characteristic of heavyish leathers.
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