Vintage hats need help.

[B-Man2]

Thanks JC!

 

[JonnyCrow]

Thanks JC!

Welcome Burt, I think they called the Merchant, the wavy navy, it looks old though

 

[Spitfireace]

Merchant navy, but which merchant navy? that is the question. Not British, because it has a completely different crest.

 

[B-Man2]

Merchant navy, but which merchant navy? that is the question. Not British, because it has a completely different crest.

The Dutch Merchant Marine was suggested but I don’t think that’s correct .
It’s strange because the crest has all of the ear marks of being a British protectorate county .

 

[JonnyCrow]

Merchant navy, but which merchant navy? that is the question. Not British, because it has a completely different crest.

Your guess is as good as mine , I had a quick scout and I've seen about a dozen the same, that's a job in itself finding out other than it's bullion and merch

 

[Spitfireace]

I was thinking Hong Kong, but finding images on the internet is proving to be difficult. There are also all the small Caribbean islands that are or were British colonies.

 

[JonnyCrow]

I was thinking Hong Kong, but finding images on the internet is proving to be difficult. There are also all the small Caribbean islands that are or were British colonies.

You'd be including a lot of commonwealth then including India, South Africa, Australia etc, a lot of MN bullion badges look generic, but I do know the standard British anchor I think sat on a red velvet cushion back

 

[jack31916]

The Dutch Merchant Marine was suggested but I don’t think that’s correct .
It’s strange because the crest has all of the ear marks of being a British protectorate county .

Allas nothing Dutch here B-Man....

 

[B-Man2]

Allas nothing Dutch here B-Man....

Thanks … appreciate your input.

 

[Spitfireace]

You'd be including a lot of commonwealth then including India, South Africa, Australia etc, a lot of MN bullion badges look generic, but I do know the standard British anchor I think sat on a red velvet cushion back

Here is a British Merchant Navy officer's cap badge from WW2. I would think Canada, Australia, NZ, would be very similar if not the same.

 

[B-Man2]

Here is a British Merchant Navy officer's cap badge from WW2. I would think Canada, Australia, NZ, would be very similar if not the same.

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The crown is the sticking point . Most of the anchor and crest look alike .

 

[JonnyCrow]

Here is a British Merchant Navy officer's cap badge from WW2. I would think Canada, Australia, NZ, would be very similar if not the same.

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Very like the royal also

 

[JonnyCrow]

Burt look at these, Italian navy old Regia Marina, crest is very similar

 

[JonnyCrow]

 

[JonnyCrow]

 

[ausreenactor]

The Blue cap is USMS...

Just polished up my badge...

 

[B-Man2]

The Blue cap is USMS...

Just polished up my badge...View attachment 88581

Thanks Capt

 

[tda003]

The 2nd cap is for an officer in the USMS (United States Merchant Service). Though quite large during WWII, today the USMS is limited to the USMMA and it's worn by instructors and administrative officers of the United States Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point, Long Island, NY.
The 3rd is an bullion embroided US Navy officers cover. I don't know if it's still regulation, but years ago, though pricy, it was not at all unusual to see them. I think it's a distinguished look and becomes "salty" as it's exposed to the elements. Ammonia used sparingly, would get rid of most of the tarnish.
As to the first. If the side buttons are correct to the hat, it appears to be of US origin. The emblem itself may not be US, as I have never seen a US flagged ship with a crown as part of the hat badge. Possibly a cover for a foreign flagged merchant shipping company?

 

[B-Man2]

The 2nd cap is for an officer in the USMS (United States Merchant Service). Though quite large during WWII, today the USMS is limited to the USMMA and it's worn by instructors and administrative officers of the United States Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point, Long Island, NY.
The 3rd is an bullion embroided US Navy officers cover. I don't know if it's still regulation, but years ago, though pricy, it was not at all unusual to see them. I think it's a distinguished look and becomes "salty" as it's exposed to the elements. Ammonia used sparingly, would get rid of most of the tarnish.
As to the first. If the side buttons are correct to the hat, it appears to be of US origin. The emblem itself may not be US, as I have never seen a US flagged ship with a crown as part of the hat badge. Possibly a cover for a foreign flagged merchant shipping company?

Thanks for you input . Much appreciated .

 

[Happy Hooligan]

Since we're talking hats... Where is this one from? Is it a real hat or just something sold in the 1920's to a guy with a yacht?