Stunning patches by Miroslav on FB...

[Bombing IP]

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Even if I find it suspect to how he obtains some of the "original examples" that he reproduces for his means.
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The guy has a business and reproduces patches that are sold as reproductions there is no interlectual copyright on this stuff .Wheres the harm ! .

Jeff

 

[Bombing IP]

The insignias were created back in the 1940s current artists do not own the design .There is a book on the subject when the designs were made an approved . Colors sizes and what not most probably the orignal artist has passed on . You are really an obnoxious troll probably a past member who was banned . But your tiny mind cannot help himself take vengeful reprisals againt all of us on the forum . You may want to see your docter to up your medication ,or I can send you some razor blades so you can end it all .I am sure no one on this forum would miss you , you sure are not enjoying life . Whats the old saying Misery loves company well your the poster boy for that senario .Later Bucko !

Jeff

 

[Technonut2112]

It appears to me that this was instigated by someone exhibiting trollish behavior from perhaps a farcebook group, informing someone there that their artwork was being misrepresented here, to basically stir-up trouble. For all I know, until Miroslav's side of the story is heard, it could well be HIS version which was copied. I posted that patch last June, and have since seen the original it was based upon some time back. I can appreciate someone pointing-out that it may be their work, but certainly do not appreciate the manner presented by the instigator / troll... (not the artist claiming it's their work, I think he was merely manipulated into this)

For all I really know, the artist could be an extremely talented 2-fingered chimpanzee... I purchased the patch from Miroslav on eBay, and assumed it's his work, which it IS since he produced and sold it. I can post that I'm the reincarnation of Leonardo da Vinci and painted the Mona Lisa, but that doesn't necessarily make it so. There are two sides to every story, and I haven't personally heard both here regarding who actually designed the patch..

 

[Bombing IP]

ARTIST he maybe but bears no resemblance to WW2 art way off base ,so consequently not relevant to this thread .

Jeff

 

[Micawber]

As an aside...

I've handled quite a number of original 91st BG H, 322nd, 323rd, 324th & 401st Sqdn patches [those that know of my background will appreciate the how and why], nuances of design changed as time went on and I know from first hand accounts that as time went on there was quite a production line going on the base. I do have a list of prices charged for patches, jackets and nose-art tucked away in my files somewhere.

 

[Micawber]

In short RAF Bassingbourn was constructed as part of the airfield expansion programme that was initiated to counter the growing threat from Germany in the mid to late 1930's. It was an active RAF airfield years before the 91st BG moved in under the auspices of Col Stanley Wray after their original base at Kimbolton suffered from damage to the runways. The permanent, centrally heated buildings mean the place was nicknamed "The Country Club Of The 8th Air Force" and such was the ease of transport via road and train in and out of London the place was popular with celebrities, press and top brass.

Station 121 was equipped with 4 C Type hangars which catered for the 441st Sub Depot for major repairs, 322nd, 323rd, 324th & 401st Sqdns. Each hangar had offices to the side and squadrons were allocated these. To the front of the main office entrances signs were erected which were painted with large renditions of each squadron insignia. This was the 324th sign....

There were numerous period detail variations .

 

[ausreenactor]

You are really dense. The harm is one artist develops and creates an insignia, and another person copies the work. Please tell me you kinda understand.

Like Mark Nelson did? You come here as a fan boy for these guys and have done nothing but agitate since?

 

[Miro]

Hello Everybody,

Its Miroslav. I apologize to Joseph for copied face of rabbit of his version of 324th BS patch.
I painted 2 or 3 same patches, with that face, but never again. It was about 2 years ago.

I have 324th BS patch now on my Ebay, but its standard version, copy of original one.

Thanx all for understanding and again apologize to Jospeh.

Best regards,
Miroslav

 

[Technonut2112]

Hello Everybody,

Its Miroslav. I apologize to Joseph for copied face of rabbit of his version of 324th BS patch.
I painted 2 or 3 same patches, with that face, but never again. It was about 2 years ago.

I have 324th BS patch now on my Ebay, but its standard version, copy of original one.

Thanx all for understanding and again apologize to Jospeh.

Best regards,
Miroslav

Thanks for clearing things up, even though it matters absolutely nothing to me as a customer who purchased a patch. I saw it on eBay, liked it, and purchased it. It will look great on my Morgan Memphis Belle A-2 when I finally get it stitched on.. Whatever issues you have between others is none of my business as a consumer, and wouldn't prevent me from making a purchase from you in the future if I decide upon another patch..

 

[ausreenactor]

No

You sound bent, did someone fly up your arse today ? LOL

Not at all. You rave about Mark Nelson copying a patch and make a dedicated post. Then you whine when someone else copies design.

Agenda much?

 

[Miro]

This is my 324th BS that I painting in last 2 years about. Its some kind of copy of original design.

 

[Miro]

And this is my other version of 324th, This time also with head modification, made it Bugs Bunny face, because original one is not so nice.

 

[JosephDaniel]

Miroslav,

There is really no apology necessary from you. I am amazed at the rabbit hole this thread went down when I tried to educate where you copied your design from and what I based my design on.

I was immediately berated, accused of collusion, trolling, lying, and told my work bears no resemblance to WW2 art. Oh yeah, I was called a chimpanzee as well. I now know why so many good people in the jacket community now avoid these forums like the plague. I joined these forums to share my knowledge and learn from others. That doesn't seem possible now. Very disappointing.

I will admit to being a bit miffed when I saw you copied my design, but I got over it pretty quickly. I just wish you would have contacted me and asked permission first, I would have gladly given it. I think most jacket/patch artists are this agreeable with sharing since we are usually heavily basing our designs on someone elses work in the first place. Future food for thought for you.

As I stated Miroslav, you do an excellent job producing patches that look great and are available at a reasonable cost and you are very prolific as well.


Regards,

Joseph

 

[Miro]

Miroslav,

There is really no apology necessary from you. I am amazed at the rabbit hole this thread went down when I tried to educate where you copied your design from and what I based my design on.

I was immediately berated, accused of collusion, trolling, lying, and told my work bears no resemblance to WW2 art. Oh yeah, I was called a chimpanzee as well. I now know why so many good people in the jacket community now avoid these forums like the plague. I joined these forums to share my knowledge and learn from others. That doesn't seem possible now. Very disappointing.

I will admit to being a bit miffed when I saw you copied my design, but I got over it pretty quickly. I just wish you would have contacted me and asked permission first, I would have gladly given it. I think most jacket/patch artists are this agreeable with sharing since we are usually heavily basing our designs on someone elses work in the first place. Future food for thought for you.

As I stated Miroslav, you do an excellent job producing patches that look great and are available at a reasonable cost and you are very prolific as well.


Regards,

Joseph

Maybe you would not belive me, but that was patch on request and that was first time i saw face of that rabbit. Later I made one or two same patches, but never again. Face you painted is realy nice, because original one is litlle scarry, looks like alien, actually eyes only.I thought its not big deal to borrow small details, think we all do that, but it was mistake. I do owe you apologize.

BTW If you red discussion on FB, SUIT UP FLIGHT JACKETS, below my 603rd patch, big expert LOCKED discussion when I start to ask him some question. And do not gave me chance to replay. Later sent me private message also disabled to replay him.

Wanted to ask him one more thing abut his super printed patches making them every day like toilet paper using HIGH TEHNOLOGY printers claiming they are with period correct patina! Wonder...if WWII printed patches are made in PHOTOSHOP like he did.

 

[Micawber]

Corporal Tony Starcer, the most productive and well known jacket, patch and nose art artist with the 91st BG H at Bassingbourn, would surely be having a chuckle if he could read some of this thread. Charlie Busa and Jack Gafney who also wielded a paintbrush and paint on the base likewise.

 

[ausreenactor]

Great work as always. Not sure if the OSS would have thrown it on an A-2 or M41

 

[ausreenactor]

They say imitation is the greatest firm of flattery. Noticed that this patch presentation style is being replicated now by others on FB! Go Miro... setting the standard.

 

[Miro]

Again and again Sean Colins starting attacking on me on FB...this time with 2 patches I painted for his friend Mark Nelson 2-3 years ago. Mark sent me photos of already painted patches asking me to paint for him also. Knowing Mark also painting patches have no reason to belive someone 3rd is owner of that design. Now, in public OF COURSE, "EXPERT" Sean Colins attacing me again. I noticed he usually do that after I put some new patch and got some positive comments. I will never understand such people. BTW, he unblocked me

 

[ausreenactor]

Petty, grade school antics. For someone who attracted ire from the Flying Tigers Association, for what they believed was a trademark infringement, attacking peers for 'copying' patch designs is hypocritical.

The entire patch scene is built around artists replicating a design. Gave up on the pages he moderates exclusively and resorted to unfriending him on FB. Looks like 'Suit Up' is 'Messed Up'.

Will stick to the jacket focused FB pages.

Miro, you're a better man than I. I would have called out the petty bullying long before now.

 

[Officer Dibley]

Again and again Sean Colins starting attacking on me on FB...this time with 2 patches I painted for his friend Mark Nelson 2-3 years ago. Mark sent me photos of already painted patches asking me to paint for him also. Knowing Mark also painting patches have no reason to belive someone 3rd is owner of that design. Now, in public OF COURSE, "EXPERT" Sean Colins attacing me again. I noticed he usually do that after I put some new patch and got some positive comments. I will never understand such people. BTW, he unblocked me

You sir are “Da Man”. You have skills. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but not when financial gain is at stake.
Keep doing what you do.
And welcone to the forum !
Dave