Sham A-2?

[asiamiles]

Is that an (repro) A-2 that Jimmy Pursey is wearing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2xdCvhvyqY

 

[jack aranda]

E's jumpin' round so much, it's 'ard to tell wot 'e's wearin'. Darn kids! But, it don' appear as like his jacket got no knits 'round the bottom. And a bow tie? 'E looks like a milk man gone bad! :lol: Great eyebrows, though. Style points for them.

 

[zoomer]

White shirt + bowtie + A-2ish mall jacket = parking lot valet.

Is this what they call Oi? Or is that more hardcore?

 

[asiamiles]

White shirt + bowtie + A-2ish mall jacket = parking lot valet.

Is this what they call Oi? Or is that more hardcore?

At the time they were basically categorised as punk, and might be considered proto-oi since bands like the Cockney Rejects very much followed in their footsteps and probably adopted much of their skinhead following, but definitely not hardcore. Would now be know as "street punk", I guess.

 

[Tim P]

SHAM I believe is an acronym for SkinHeads Are Magic. the jacket is a pale silk or nylon lined leather with box stitching at the eppaulette, a roughwear cut collar and 1.5 ounce nastiness

 

[asiamiles]

SHAM I believe is an acronym for SkinHeads Are Magic

"The band allegedly derived their name from a piece of graffiti that founder Jimmy Pursey saw on a wall. It originally said Walton and Hersham '69 but had partly faded away, and made reference to when Walton & Hersham F.C. secured the Athenian League title in 1969."

 

[Tim P]

better. I guess it was reverse engineered at the time to suit the sensibilities of the skinheads.

 

[joeson]

better. I guess it was reverse engineered at the time to suit the sensibilities of the skinheads.

A bit like Slade standing for, 'skinheads love and defend england'.It's actually a shortened version of their original name Ambrose Slade,which betrays the fact that they were originally a folk band.

 

[asiamiles]

A bit like Slade standing for, 'skinheads love and defend england'.It's actually a shortened version of their original name Ambrose Slade,which betrays the fact that they were originally a folk band.

Slade are the most famous of three great bands my home town produced. Before becoming Slade they were called the 'N Betweens and Ambrose Slade, both names very much of their time, but I would never have called them "a folk band"...especially to their faces! :lol:

Funnily enough, I probably wear my Slade t-shirt more than any of my flight jackets...am I on the wrong forum?! And coincidentally, as I type this I'm listening to a TYA album featuring a song Slade would cover.

 

[Tim P]

black country blowk then am ya?

 

[Peter Graham]

I just remembered about this today. He doesn't look so hard in this clip, does he ? :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR-W-uGcMRA

 

[havocpaul]

Not an original A-2, probably bought from Kensington Market or one of the markets at the time. Sham were a pain in the a** back in the punk days....they attracted the National Front skins and their gigs were mega-violent. Pursey didn't hold right-wing views but by turning up at many punk gigs especially Clash gigs meant those thugs followed too. My band were on the wrong end of those Nazi skins once in Croydon and we got cuts and bruises. For an original A-2 being worn check out this CBI A-2 worn by Pete Farndon of the Pretenders borrowed off their manager....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7TyAjje0Y

 

[Vcruiser]

All those punkers were pursies.... :mrgreen:


(Just kidding...)

 

[asiamiles]

Sham were a pain in the a** back in the punk days....they attracted the National Front skins and their gigs were mega-violent. Pursey didn't hold right-wing views but by turning up at many punk gigs especially Clash gigs meant those thugs followed too. My band were on the wrong end of those Nazi skins once in Croydon and we got cuts and bruises.

Wouldn't disagree with your views on Sham. Pursey seemed a decent and not unintelligent bloke - an actor I seem to recall - but like some other bands failed to shrug off the right-wing skinhead following, and they were forced to stop playing live while at the same time becoming quite succesful and having top 20 hits. Aside from a couple of decent songs - a band I occasionally see here in Japan (they're actually on a live DVD I released) does a stripped down cover of "Borstal Breakout" - they weren't actually much good.

Who was your band Paul?