Possible Monarch M-422A.

[Spitfireace]

Based on the zipper alone, I would say it's a Monarch. Needs male side of zipper, a label. Other than that though. Could replace the collar. Or not.

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[coolhandluke]

Not a Monarch and I don't believe that it's a M-422A.

 

[Spitfireace]

Look at the brown painted stopperbox. Only Monarch did that as far as I know.

 

[Spitfireace]

They don't put those on civvy repros. Only military. Could be wrong. Never seen a Talon like that on a civvy jacket in my experience.

 

[coolhandluke]

Look at the brown painted stopperbox. Only Monarch did that as far as I know.

The giveaway that it's not Monarch is the lack of center-seam liner construction (if the liner is original).

If someone can identify the jacket based on the listing photos only, they have a much better eye than me. Can't see the stencil, pencil pocket, and overall shape of the jacket. The brass Talon does narrow it down quite a bit though.

 

[Spitfireace]

Zipper is original to the jacket. No other sewing marks. Was it Monarch making the AN-J?

 

[coolhandluke]

Zipper is original to the jacket. No other sewing marks. Was it Monarch making the AN-J?

All Monarchs (M-422, M-422A, AN-J-3A, AN-6552, G1) should have the same center seam contruction.

 

[Spitfireace]

Maybe it's a PX jacket.

 

[Spitfireace]

I think the liner is replaced, so is the collar.

 

[coolhandluke]

Zipper is original to the jacket. No other sewing marks. Was it Monarch making the AN-J?

If the brass zipper is original, I think it would have to be a Block if it's a 422A, but the liner's not right. Most A's carried nickel zips. It's not a M-422 based on the collar stitching. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any AN series jackets with brass M-39 Talons.

Hopefully someone with better knowledge than I will weigh in. If it's a USN jacket that's not been refurbished, it's not a contract that I recognize.

 

[Spitfireace]

Looks like the the Talon on my Monarch A-2 .. original.

 

[coolhandluke]

Looks like the the Talon on my Monarch A-2 .. original.

Yes, it's clearly an original brass M-39. Just stating that, if it is a USN contract jacket and the zipper is original to it, there's a fairly limited number of possibilities. IIRC Block jackets were the only M-422A's that sometimes used brass in leiu of nickel zips. Brass M-39's were primarily used on M-422's and it's not one.

 

[Spitfireace]

Again, nobody is going to paint the stopper box with paint and it's clearly painted by the factory.

 

[mulceber]

Not a Block, since this jacket has the arcing stitch on the back of the collar, but I agree it's not a Monarch.

 

[Spitfireace]

Maybe there was private contract using some parts during that time.

 

[Spitfireace]

Fact is there is an M-39 and it couldnt be faked. I wouldn't say it could never happen though.

 

[Spitfireace]

Interesting theory. I am a zipper head. I'm kinda a little bit overzealous on the zipper thing.
I have a good zipper knowledge.