B-Man2
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Good point Brian ...maybe they’re marked .
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Nickb123
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what about the size tag? Would the "42" have been from the original jacket?
Also, were the trousers supposed to be a part of the B-2 kit?
I'm royally confused.
YoungMedic
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Very interesting find. Is anyone near Trenton NJ ? The switlik company seems to be in touch with their military history. Maybe someone could find out if they made a bid on the contract for A2's in the 30's, maybe there are some papers tucked into a drawer somewhere that would shed some light on the subject ?
Director of Sales
Anthony Florio
[email protected]
Military/Government Sales
Anthony Florio
[email protected]
Commercial Aviation Sales
Marie Gowen
[email protected]
Helicopter & General Aviation Sales
Paul Arnold
[email protected]
Marine Sales
Janel Brockton
[email protected]
Marketing/Press Inquiries
Danielle Connelly, Marketing Manager
[email protected]
Sarah Switlik, Director of Marketing
[email protected]
Director of Sales
Anthony Florio
[email protected]
Military/Government Sales
Anthony Florio
[email protected]
Commercial Aviation Sales
Marie Gowen
[email protected]
Helicopter & General Aviation Sales
Paul Arnold
[email protected]
Marine Sales
Janel Brockton
[email protected]
Marketing/Press Inquiries
Danielle Connelly, Marketing Manager
[email protected]
Sarah Switlik, Director of Marketing
[email protected]
B-Man2
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Outstanding idea YM !
Seems like we all overlooked that avenue of research . That might go a long way to shedding some light on this cool looking A2.
Thanks.
YoungMedic
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Ken had actually mentioned contacting the firm in the first page but with all the action in this thread it seems to have come and gone
foster
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It is worth a try to contact Switlik, but I would not expect much. What was once the largest textile mill in my hometown made canvas field gear for the US Army in WWII (cartridge belts, first aid pouches, haversacks). My grandfather even worked there after the war. Another local friend older than me went there to try and get some information on their war production effort, and they had nothing left from that time. This was in the 1990's when he went to discuss with their office records staff. But hopefully Switlik has a better approach to their company history.
Carl
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I have tried similar with Eddie Bauer , 2 years down the line still no reply !
Juanito
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As did I with Spiewak regarding their North Bergen, NJ location where the A-2 tag says they were. Zero response.
Nnatalie
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So with enough money to make it worth their while?You guys are just not flashing the right credentials at them.
write to them like your bloody Ralf Lauren.
Silver Surfer
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some answers to some of the suppasitions and questions posited. the price i paid for the jacket was about the price one would pay for an elc "contract" reproduction a-2 [i dont see the relativity of price to purchase on this one]. the label is in fact machined stitched on to the liner. the size tag? not sure, but it is stitched on to the liner. the liner has more wear and fading then the pix show, but is in excellent shape. about liners. the liner in this jacket is cotton. though usage can often be determined by liner condition, it can sometimes be misleading. i have seen mint liners on totally rotted spiewaks. i have seen trashed liners on super well preserved a-2 shells, as a result of hair goop, excessive sweat, jacket too tight, etc.....and everything in between. for those of us that have old veg aniline tanned jackets, we are familiar with the "mottled" way that they age, and is unique to this tanning process. the nipple press snaps are very faintly marked united carr, with the collar snaps being slightly smaller then the pocket snaps. all of the hardware, ie: zipper, rivets, snaps, and clasps are original to the jacket and show age appropriate wear and verdigris. in summery, i too am baffled with this one, originally posted under "missing link?', so i reckon that i have some kind of pre war a-2, and for the price of a repro.
saucerfiend
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Vic,
On GW'S site, John says United Carr anzo snaps were used on early contract A-2's '32 through '39 on pockets and collars. After '39 only the pockets. The first A-2 to use them was Security Sportswear. This info I got from the WHATS NEW section at GW
Brian
mulceber
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So, perfectly consistent with the hypothesis that this was an early contract/test jacket.
Ken at Aero Leather
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May I just underline my post #88
Ken at Aero Leather
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The price tells me this is a genuine "attic find", not an attempt to inflate the price, also says this label has probably been in place for a considerable length of time, not recently added that's for sure.
Down one sleeve lining there will be the obvious sign of where the jacket was closed during make up. Raised seam half the length of the shorter sleeve lining seam............one sleeve has amost certainly been opened at least once in the past, to sewn the label through the sleeve seam, no other way to machine sew a label in a finished jacket without leaving immediately visible evidence
If some of this stitching was unpicked (easy to resew) and you reached inside the jacket you could gently draw the back of the label area of the lining through the open seam in the lining.
That way you could see if there had ever been another label sewn into the jacket, there would be obvious signs of a second set of stitch marks had an earlier label ever been fitted...or not?
Down one sleeve lining there will be the obvious sign of where the jacket was closed during make up. Raised seam half the length of the shorter sleeve lining seam............one sleeve has amost certainly been opened at least once in the past, to sewn the label through the sleeve seam, no other way to machine sew a label in a finished jacket without leaving immediately visible evidence
If some of this stitching was unpicked (easy to resew) and you reached inside the jacket you could gently draw the back of the label area of the lining through the open seam in the lining.
That way you could see if there had ever been another label sewn into the jacket, there would be obvious signs of a second set of stitch marks had an earlier label ever been fitted...or not?
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2BM2K
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The jacket is certainly from 1934 or earlier, but it is a mystery.
More photo's showing some details may help to identify the jacket contract.
If possible these are what I would to see photo's of;
The epaulettes
The leather side of the collar stand.
The top stops on the zipper
The throat latch
Pocket size tag, if present.
Both pockets open and showing the stitching reinforcements, the previous photo is out of focus.
Silver Surfer
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Silver Surfer
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also, i have written an email [pix included] to sarah switlik to see if she or anyone at switlik can shed any light on the jacket.
