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Hornbeam Militaria USAAF Crusher

Cocker

Well-Known Member
Received my crusher a couple of days ago. Really nice! I've never seen an original or a repro other than from pictures and were surprised how "tall" it is in the front.

Anyone has an original badge they want to sell?

Same here! Material is really good, and overall quality is great, especially at that price point.

Now, for the more knowledgeable here: I'm also planning on getting a real eagle badge, and getting rid of the tall, rigid plastic backing inside he cap to have the front piece sitting lower. Does that sound right, or did original crusher also have this plastic rigid piece?
 

Smithy

Well-Known Member
Same here! Material is really good, and overall quality is great, especially at that price point.

Now, for the more knowledgeable here: I'm also planning on getting a real eagle badge, and getting rid of the tall, rigid plastic backing inside he cap to have the front piece sitting lower. Does that sound right, or did original crusher also have this plastic rigid piece?

The badge does sit a tad high Cedric as I mention in my original review but a lot, if not most of that is due to the backing. Originals often had the same stiffener plate to make it sit proud but on originals it's often metal. You could easily remove the plastic backing down to the crown by cutting it out and mounting the badge. The weight of the badge will pull it down some and give it that proper aviator crusher look.

Btw my badge from Warhats just turned up today and it's a real peach. I'll post some pics tomorrow.
 

Cocker

Well-Known Member
Just finished removing the stiffener, and it is indeed much better! About your badge from Warhats, is it bigger than the one used on the Hornbeam repro?

Now I need to find a way to soften up the fabric to give it that crusher look.
 

Smithy

Well-Known Member
Just finished removing the stiffener, and it is indeed much better! About your badge from Warhats, is it bigger than the one used on the Hornbeam repro?

Now I need to find a way to soften up the fabric to give it that crusher look.

I'll post some pics tomorrow buddy. I've removed the stiffener and installed the Warhats badge and am very pleased.

Remember that the "50 mission crushers" really looked that way because they had had headsets over the top of them for hundreds of hours.

If you look at most fighter boys their ones are not surprisingly a little more "proud" in height, case in point James Goodson...

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As opposed to a bomber boy...

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Micawber

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Back in the years of yore when I collected with a passion I had quite a number of original visor caps pass through my hands, these included Bancroft Flighters and other visor caps made without stiffeners and soft peak to look "crushed' out of the box as well as ordinary visors with standard stiff peaks that had the stiffening grommets removed and had become crushed and salty in use [including the use of headphones]. My favourites were the Bancroft Flighters and somewhere out the back, in a big box of old fashioned print photos I have photos of a lot of my old stuff. Trouble is due to my recent illness and its ongoing effects that area remains out of bounds to immune suppressed me so pictures will have to wait. That said I do have a few low resolution images on an external hard drive including two or three random ones of Flighters I used to have. I could have sworn there were some digital ones of tan Flighters too but they are not showing on a system search and I don't have time to go through thousands of images manually so these somewhat poor quality images will have to do unless I stumble across the others at some point....

Actually I have a feeling these are the same original cap with an original oversize badge but what the heck, the intention was good ;)

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Edited to add this random photo found in the same folder

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ausreenactor

Well-Known Member
Back in the years of yore when I collected with a passion I had quite a number of original visor caps pass through my hands, these included Bancroft Flighters and other visor caps made without stiffeners and soft peak to look "crushed' out of the box as well as ordinary visors with standard stiff peaks that had the stiffening grommets removed and had become crushed and salty in use [including the use of headphones]. My favourites were the Bancroft Flighters and somewhere out the back, in a big box of old fashioned print photos I have photos of a lot of my old stuff. Trouble is due to my recent illness and its ongoing effects that area remains out of bounds to immune suppressed me so pictures will have to wait. That said I do have a few low resolution images on an external hard drive including two or three random ones of Flighters I used to have. I could have sworn there were some digital ones of tan Flighters too but they are not showing on a system search and I don't have time to go through thousands of images manually so these somewhat poor quality images will have to do unless I stumble across the others at some point....

Actually I have a feeling these are the same original cap with an original oversize badge but what the heck, the intention was good ;)

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Edited to add this random photo found in the same folder

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Great kit!

FYI FiveStar have their prototype up on FB..

 

Smithy

Well-Known Member
One of the great things with the Hornbeam caps was that not only were the colours spot on to originals but the fabric of the cap upper behaves the same way as originals and especially once the stiffener is removed. It "sags and bags" as the old aircrew would say back in the day. Put a decent badge on it and you've got a decent crusher for a great price.
 

B-Man2

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