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Got a new A-2 from ELC to try on
- Thread starter Rutger
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a new jacket which looks big may look ok with a sweater when new but when the leather gets broken, it will not fit the same.
these jackets are meant to be worn with something thin underneath to look their best, it's not a winter jacket.
people come in different shapes and sizes, different contracts come in different cuts and fits.
if you look in the mirror and think the jacket looks better on the hanger than on you, i'm afraid you are right.
a big jacket will always look big, and a small jacket will always look small, instead of hot and cold watering it, why not get something that fits and enjoy it from day one.
if the 42 looked a bit small and you have a feeling that this one is a bit big, then i'm afraid you are right in both cases.
you'd be better off getting a different contract, something that fits you, maybe a Dubow!
these jackets are meant to be worn with something thin underneath to look their best, it's not a winter jacket.
people come in different shapes and sizes, different contracts come in different cuts and fits.
if you look in the mirror and think the jacket looks better on the hanger than on you, i'm afraid you are right.
a big jacket will always look big, and a small jacket will always look small, instead of hot and cold watering it, why not get something that fits and enjoy it from day one.
if the 42 looked a bit small and you have a feeling that this one is a bit big, then i'm afraid you are right in both cases.
you'd be better off getting a different contract, something that fits you, maybe a Dubow!
Rutger
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So I sent the same pictures to ELC friday, and monday I'll call them for some advice. Whenever I spoke to them they were always friendly and helpful.
Since both they and I have at hand the BR L-2, L-2B, B-15C/D(mod) and MA-1 in various sizes I will see if they and I will be able to get to as close a fine fit as possible, maybe with the addition of some pics of me in those jackets. That's about the only possibility apart from going there myself.
I don't really mind about the contract. What bothers me most is the shoulder droop, I really want them to sit square.
With all the different contracts available, I'm sure I'm gonna get there some time , I might even do one of those air show bus trips to the UK, I used to do that regularly about twenty years ago.
An A-1 seems to be more supple from what I read, but I sort of got my mind set on the A-2.
thanks for all your opinions though, it's much appreciated!
Since both they and I have at hand the BR L-2, L-2B, B-15C/D(mod) and MA-1 in various sizes I will see if they and I will be able to get to as close a fine fit as possible, maybe with the addition of some pics of me in those jackets. That's about the only possibility apart from going there myself.
I don't really mind about the contract. What bothers me most is the shoulder droop, I really want them to sit square.
With all the different contracts available, I'm sure I'm gonna get there some time
, I might even do one of those air show bus trips to the UK, I used to do that regularly about twenty years ago.An A-1 seems to be more supple from what I read, but I sort of got my mind set on the A-2.
thanks for all your opinions though, it's much appreciated!
i honestly don't understand where this whole fit thing came from.
why does everything has to be compared to how someone wore something or was issued it 70 years ago? some crontactor made a jacket and some guy wore it, the jacket fitted some people better than others.
someone was given a jacket his size and the next guy was given one a size up because of whatever reason. they then worried more about staying alive rather than how their jackets fitted, they then took photos. 70 years on, people go: look ... this one has blousier fit than the other.
you pay a few hundred £/$ for a jacket, you want it to fit and enjoy wearing it.
how hard is it to look in the mirror and say: yep, it looks good. or nope, it's big without a "during the war, in this photo, it was worn like this or like that".
why does everything has to be compared to how someone wore something or was issued it 70 years ago? some crontactor made a jacket and some guy wore it, the jacket fitted some people better than others.
someone was given a jacket his size and the next guy was given one a size up because of whatever reason. they then worried more about staying alive rather than how their jackets fitted, they then took photos. 70 years on, people go: look ... this one has blousier fit than the other.
you pay a few hundred £/$ for a jacket, you want it to fit and enjoy wearing it.
how hard is it to look in the mirror and say: yep, it looks good. or nope, it's big without a "during the war, in this photo, it was worn like this or like that".
Dr H
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Hear hear...wear it to enjoy it...
It can be a boxy pattern in many cases, but aside from a jacket that's cut wider than it's long and with a puffer jacket silhouette I'd always go with comfort and practicality. Looking at a Doniger again now as the cut is pretty flattering.
It can be a boxy pattern in many cases, but aside from a jacket that's cut wider than it's long and with a puffer jacket silhouette I'd always go with comfort and practicality. Looking at a Doniger again now as the cut is pretty flattering.
ive found that the elc fit is really the best for my shape , ime a 46, and quite a big 46 , bulcky wise. aero i seem to be between a 46, and 48.. goodwear was too snug nice jacket but felt like a resstraint harness,ime wondering about a bill kelsoe as my next hit, but most a2s i have owned have been a bad fit ,,,not the elc.s b10 fine, b6 fine just the a2 ?? :?
Rutger
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I've been googling (Googleing?) A2 and Eastman in various combinations and some reenacting link mentioned an agent for Eastman in the Netherlands, amazingly just 15 minutes away from work. I checked and they were right. How strange things can be.
So I made an appointment to fit a couple of jackets. Showed me horse hide, goat skin en steerhide (.50 Cal?) jackets.
Tried one without looking at the size tag first, and said, "well it fits pretty nicely around the shoulders, but the arms are tunneling to the extent that the whole cuffs disappear into the sleeves and the body is pretty roomy, so I'd like to try at least one size smaller and see how that one fits".
In the body it felt like the Rough Wear, only very notable difference is it was narrower on the shoulders.
I took it off and the size tag said 46. Can't remember the contract, it wasn't a Rough Wear.
He didn't have smaller sizes around.
As he was going to order a shipment from ELC anyway and the 44's and smaller sizes turn out to be pretty good sellers in Holland I asked him if he could get me to try a Werber in 44. He had no problem with that at all, even if I wouldn't buy it he would be able to sell it easily.
Keywords in google are Tattersall Exclusives, that should bring up the appropriate link.
I'm in no way involved in his bussiness.
Too bad he's not an agent for Kelso as well.
Didn't have the guts to HWT the Rough Wear, so sent it back the other day to ELC, and told them what I had agreed on with Tattersall.
Rutger
So I made an appointment to fit a couple of jackets. Showed me horse hide, goat skin en steerhide (.50 Cal?) jackets.
Tried one without looking at the size tag first, and said, "well it fits pretty nicely around the shoulders, but the arms are tunneling to the extent that the whole cuffs disappear into the sleeves and the body is pretty roomy, so I'd like to try at least one size smaller and see how that one fits".
In the body it felt like the Rough Wear, only very notable difference is it was narrower on the shoulders.
I took it off and the size tag said 46. Can't remember the contract, it wasn't a Rough Wear.
He didn't have smaller sizes around.
As he was going to order a shipment from ELC anyway and the 44's and smaller sizes turn out to be pretty good sellers in Holland I asked him if he could get me to try a Werber in 44. He had no problem with that at all, even if I wouldn't buy it he would be able to sell it easily.
Keywords in google are Tattersall Exclusives, that should bring up the appropriate link.
I'm in no way involved in his bussiness.
Too bad he's not an agent for Kelso as well.
Didn't have the guts to HWT the Rough Wear, so sent it back the other day to ELC, and told them what I had agreed on with Tattersall.
Rutger
