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Goodwear Steerhide Aero labelled 'Aero' 46R.

ausreenactor

Well-Known Member
bseal said:
Couchy, pull the trigger. This looks like a terrific opportunity.

I have two 44s I was trying to move, until their value at this point in time to others was a bit of a let down.

Not 'investing' in another one for a while...
 

DiamondDave

Well-Known Member
ausreenactor said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Goodwearleather-A2-jacket-repro-aero-bomber-leather-/321494188741?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ada8c02c5

Is this a flipped test jacket?


Per JC, this was a full custom order jacket, made specifically for the customer for which he paid full blown retail. He just happens to be the exact same size as John. He also has another on order currently, and is just moving this one on for room. The jacket was actually made by John, not me nor Aero of Scotland. Just an FYI.

DD
 

foster

Well-Known Member
Looks like a lovely russet jacket. I can't understand the way this works... A guy buys a repro, has it maybe three months, then decides to sell it at a loss, when the wait time for another is 1.5 years?
 

ButteMT61

Well-Known Member
ausreenactor said:
bseal said:
Couchy, pull the trigger. This looks like a terrific opportunity.

I have two 44s I was trying to move, until their value at this point in time to others was a bit of a let down.

Not 'investing' in another one for a while...

Who buys repops as an investment?
 

foster

Well-Known Member
I don't think people buy repros as an investment per se, but when it is time to sell one off we want to get as much for it as possible, right?

After all, when the price of the new production repros increases, the second-hand ones also tend to get a bump up in resale price.
 

ButteMT61

Well-Known Member
Well, I'm curious as Couchy has mentioned GW a couple of times now in regards to resale and low prices. Just wondering what expectations are. Of course we want to get as much as we can, but the economy is pretty bad in spite of what the news would like us to believe. I know for me, I'd rather save up the extra $400 and get a new, custom jacket rather than spend $1k on a used one. Unless it's a WWII era jacket of course.
 

unclegrumpy

Well-Known Member
I think the GW resale market is about the same as it has been for the last few years. Right now, I would say we are at the low point as far as the selling season goes, but the prices and action should pick up in a month or so.

One other thing to consider is the idiosyncrasies of A-2 jacket sizing between contracts...add to that all the possibilities in a custom order and your head will really start to spin.

Fit is one of the key reasons people sell an expensive jacket and buy/order another one. The money for many is far less important than getting exactly what they want. They are used to buying $700 dress shoes, $200 ties, and $3000 suits, so $1500 for a leather jacket is nothing.

I think fit is also one of the most challenging aspects of buying a used jacket, especially if you can't try it on first. I think if many those that keep wishing these used GWs that are labeled 46 were 44's could try each of them on, they eventually would hit on one that fits perfectly. The problem is being able to do that.
 

Phantomfixer

New Member
Personally< I quit buying internet repops either as new or on the secondary market.....I will buy them at military/gun shows....as to ensure the fit....never had a GW but I would think for the cost and the lag time...the fit would be spot on...
and I guess the fit is only as accurate as the measurements given to the vendor

that fear of fit and lag time are the two problems that prevents me from trying a GW.....and the fact that too many are showing up for sale....I would keep that puppy for a long time, but I don't buy 500.oo shoes or a 200.00 tie either...so I guess as long as the buyer is content so be it
 

ausreenactor

Well-Known Member
ButteMT61 said:
ausreenactor said:
bseal said:
Couchy, pull the trigger. This looks like a terrific opportunity.

I have two 44s I was trying to move, until their value at this point in time to others was a bit of a let down.

Not 'investing' in another one for a while...

Who buys repops as an investment?

ME! $24000 moved on eBay in 2008-09 in the perfect exchange rate conditions...

Bargain priced second hand clothing in Japan is a Buzz Rickson Jacket or Eastman A-2 at on eBay! JPY94=USD1.00=AUD1.40 is a big earner. Would still be doing it but the devalued JPY/USD has put a stop to it. There are still bargains to be had, but nobody is buying on eBay, as this seller will find out. My virtually pristine, 100% JC made, GW USL failed to attract anything above a $650 offer. That's equates to moving a Buzz Rickson B-10 for around $100.
 

ausreenactor

Well-Known Member
ButteMT61 said:
Well, I'm curious as Couchy has mentioned GW a couple of times now in regards to resale and low prices. Just wondering what expectations are. Of course we want to get as much as we can, but the economy is pretty bad in spite of what the news would like us to believe. I know for me, I'd rather save up the extra $400 and get a new, custom jacket rather than spend $1k on a used one. Unless it's a WWII era jacket of course.

The GW USL was a 'pure-bred' JC item and is in excellent condition. It had a multitude of watchers. Only the two offers eventuated on the listing which ran it course from start to finish. I am pondering if there is now a small element of doubt in the market based on the recently modified production procedures. While I concede my sales are timed in the 'low' part of the year for the Northern Hemisphere generally the GW items used to get snapped up in no time at all earlier in the year. The jacket failed to even attract offers... let alone a sale at near what I paid. And the jacket had not been worn since I purchased it.

Two weeks on and there are still eight watchers/investors waiting for a relist on my item, which is not going to happen until things pick up... Will watch this auction and see if even gets a bid at $600 (which will obviously not trigger the Reserve).
 

FlyingYankee

Active Member
That's a great deal if someone gets it for 600. Has to fit the buyer though. In general it seems the horsehide Jackets are more desirable on the second hand market.
 

foster

Well-Known Member
So many factors are at play, the location of the buyer and seller, the time of year and weather, incomes, market saturation, and a multitude of other perceptions.

I know I am one who wonders "The jacket is new, what is wrong with it for it to be sold so soon" even though I know the jacket is of good quality.

In reality, I think many are waiting to see where the equilibrium will be as a result of the new changes in the community (two Goodwear makers in two different specialties, partnership with Aero Leather Scotland, Bill Kelso under UK ownership, etc). There's been quite a few such transitions in 2014, even in the last few months. It takes some time for the water to clear for the undecided buyer, as there is much to consider, but limited experience to weigh in some cases.

Plus it is also summer in the northern hemisphere and few of us in that location are experiencing jacket weather at present. That has already been mentioned.
 

ausreenactor

Well-Known Member
FlyingYankee said:
That's a great deal if someone gets it for 600. Has to fit the buyer though. In general it seems the horsehide Jackets are more desirable on the second hand market.

That they did...Way to drop $1K... :eek:
 

FlyingYankee

Active Member
As far as resale goes GW jackets do much better than most retail goods. Expect pennies on the dollar on most things besides Rolex and Goodwear.
 
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