French Cycliste Jacket/Hartmann pattern

[Baconsandwich]

Hello everyone!

I have been looking at this style of jacket for the past 3-4 years, the different repros both big and small. I have nearly come to the conclusion that I wan't my tailor to make it for me in house. There is a guy, Pilot is his handle here, who does some incredible work but the waiting list is really long. Eastman is not to my liking and Noble House is out of the question. I will with photos try and get my tailor to make a pattern but if any of you have it or something near it I would very much like to have it.

Thank you!

 

[Pilot]

Hello everyone!

I have been looking at this style of jacket for the past 3-4 years, the different repros both big and small. I have nearly come to the conclusion that I wan't my tailor to make it for me in house. There is a guy, Pilot is his handle here, who does some incredible work but the waiting list is really long. Eastman is not to my liking and Noble House is out of the question. I will with photos try and get my tailor to make a pattern but if any of you have it or something near it I would very much like to have it.

Thank you!

Waiting time is right now 3 months after full payment and or whatever DHL time is after receipt of your payment for a test jacket.

 

[B-Man2]

Brice
I must have been off on another planet someplace or missed my medication , but this is the first I’ve heard about you reproducing the French Cyclist (LW) Jacket . Please tell me more when you have time.

 

[mulceber]

Waiting time is right now 3 months after full payment and or whatever DHL time is after receipt of your payment for a test jacket.

There is a guy, Pilot is his handle here, who does some incredible work but the waiting list is really long.

FWIW, Bacon, 3 months is not a long wait. Many other jacket makers were up to a year or more, even before COVID. Eastman is unusually fast in their turn-around, but Pilot has pointed out some issues with accuracy.

If you want a French cyclist jacket, I would strongly encourage you to get on Pilot’s waiting list and sit tight for a couple months. You’ll get a more accurate jacket.

 

[dinomartino1]

Hello everyone!

I have been looking at this style of jacket for the past 3-4 years, the different repros both big and small. I have nearly come to the conclusion that I wan't my tailor to make it for me in house. There is a guy, Pilot is his handle here, who does some incredible work but the waiting list is really long. Eastman is not to my liking and Noble House is out of the question. I will with photos try and get my tailor to make a pattern but if any of you have it or something near it I would very much like to have it.

Thank you!

By the standards of many here who apply eastmans A2s attention to accuracy to lessor A2 makers and are not shy about saying it their Hartmann is a mall jacket, well made etc. still wrong.
I don't blame you for not liking the crappy noble house either.
Plenty of photos here of the best French cyclists jacket repros.

Doursoux Hartmann

https://www.doursoux.com/en/blousons-wwii/14-ww-ii-luftwaffe-jacket.html What do you guys think of this one? Minus the hardware and missing buckle does it look decent? Thanks

www.vintageleatherjackets.org

 

[Kermit3D]

FWIW, Bacon, 3 months is not a long wait. Many other jacket makers were up to a year or more, even before COVID. Eastman is unusually fast in their turn-around, but Pilot has pointed out some issues with accuracy.

If you want an LW jacket, I would strongly encourage you to get on Pilot’s waiting list and sit tight for a couple months. You’ll get a more accurate jacket.

Normally I get mine tomorrow. One of the cyclist jacket that Pilot offers.
I will make a dedicated post with pictures and my impressions.

 

[Baconsandwich]

What was the most common color? I really can't decide if I should go for black or brown.

 

[Kermit3D]

What was the most common color? I really can't decide if I should go for black or brown.

Black never existed on cyclist jackets, it is a modern invention. A more or less dark brown is the most consistent in my opinion.

 

[mulceber]

Black never existed on cyclist jackets, it is a modern invention. A more or less dark brown is the most consistent in my opinion.

And imho, brown is just a more versatile color.

 

[Kermit3D]

An example of a dark brown color :

 

[Kermit3D]

 

[B-Man2]

The originals were dark brown . The LW color of their belts holsters and issued leather Kit was brown, with the exception of some of their flight boots. The black and white photos made them look black.

 

[flyincowboy]

That picture of French partisan remind me my uncle ...Seems that he had the same looking jacket! i will ask him!

 

[Baconsandwich]

Brown it is! Any clue on what leather they would have used back then? If they were made in France that obviously gives a good clue as to what.

 

[Baconsandwich]

All WW2 originals I had and have: Cowhide!
( en français “ vachette “).
Note the proportions and contruction: zips vs pockets, vs pit to pit, vs arms vs shoulders etc...

Thanks! I think I'll let my tailor make one for me as I like to keep things in house even though yours are tempting, Pilot!

 

[Pilot]

Thanks! I think I'll let my tailor make one for me as I like to keep things in house even though yours are tempting, Pilot!

Thx. for the compliments...

 

[Smithy]

Those ones that Brice is involved with are utterly gorgeous jackets. The price is high because like a Good Wear they are made to measure and made to spec. None of that off the rack rubbish

 

[Baconsandwich]

Those ones that Brice is involved with are utterly gorgeous jackets. The price is high because like a Good Wear they are made to measure and made to spec. None of that off the rack rubbish

For sure!