CATF or 23rd Jacket on Ebay?

[JDAM]

Apparently a CATF A-2 sold on Ebay recently? Does anyone here have pics as I'd love to see it.

 

[Dr H]

CATF?

 

[a2jacketpatches]

Chinese American Task Force, this is one of many versions I've done -

 

[Dr H]

Ah, the Aero yesterday?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321656471099? ... EBIDX%3AIT

Lousy photo, poor description, slow and incomplete responses to questions?
Yes, I was about to bid on that one too - pulled before it even got going.
Assuming that's what it was and not a re-badged jacket or a decent replica - very hard to tell from the image.

 

[Silver Surfer]

the dr h link shows what looks to me to be an repro-scotland with a repro patch. some years ago, aero sold some nice leather patches, and when ordering an a-2, you could have one sewn on at the factory.

 

[Dr H]

That was my nagging feeling too (too pristine), but try as I might I couldn't get any dimensions or better photos out of the vendor. Still it looked like a nice Aero anyway...

 

[CBI]

cool looking jacket though

 

[JDAM]

Hmm. Agreed. It was sold offline for 1000 quid and that'd make it an expensive repro!

 

[dmar836]

But a cheap CATF A-2!
The seller never claimed it was wartime.
From recent topics, I think that's what we've come to.
Dave

 

[Dr H]

The seller never claimed it was wartime.

I'm not sure that I'd fully agree with that comment, Dave (it's ambiguous at best if the buyer was wrong in his/her guess and wanted to contest it).

The title of the listing was: '2nd World War Pilots Flying Jacket' and it was listed as 'True Vintage' with the rider that the decade was '30s-40s-50s'.

Assuming that Victor's analysis is correct and that it is a badged Aero (Scotland) then that doesn't qualify for vintage or the correct decade.

But, if it is the real deal then yes a steal at a grand.

JMHO

 

[ADC]

His listing alludes to the claim that is a period piece but without specific facts. Belonging to a relative who was an RAF pilot in the Far East during and after the war paints a clear picture of what he is trying represent. If indeed fake he can always blame the relative for misleading info.

 

[dmar836]

But just try to get money back from such a person. Even if possible through channels, it's too much drama dealing with such dodgy types, IMO.
Taking such a chance leaves one with months of evasive emails and threats and maybe a partial recovery.
Sometimes, usually, it's worth paying more to me for a legit piece rather than hoping to get lucky.

 

[a2jacketpatches]

Another thread holding the seller completely responsible. Yes, these guys need a good kick in the you know what. And I'm usually party to giving them a heads up
in the case that they really don't know about something, or in the case that I think they do know, calling them out on it. But any guy that throws money out on something like this thinking it's a period original is obviously not a member here or experienced in buying flight jackets.

I posted some photos of CBI style patches a little while back and didn't buy them based on the opinions of others here, and I've been studying CBI multi-piece for 20 years. I could have fallen for half a dozen replica ROLEX watches this year but guess what, I didn't. Why? because I have no idea about them and realize the scammers are out there.

Buy some books, search the web, join a few forums, ask lots of questions. Then start buying high end flight jackets. It's a dog eat dog world out there buying anything from 5 dollar coins to high end militaria.