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B10 from BOB DONG

Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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Looking at this AliExpress seller's new pics (only $189.99 USD here with free shipping), the mouton doesn't appear to be as nice compared to what Bronson used last year.. Oh well, if the zipper is on the proper side, the mouton collar still looks good, and is worth the trade-off to me:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fre...000&pvid=64d3909e-5733-4e6d-83fa-240e24696501

EDIT: It looks like November 11th is the magic shipping day for Bronson B-10's at AliExpress from a couple of sellers. More than likely the same for eBay orders. If the jacket is ordered on Nov. 11th from the above linked seller, the price will only be $170.99 USD.. Damn! I could have saved around $40.00 over the eBay price! :( I also noticed that their goatskin A-1 is getting re-stocked in most sizes on the 11th as well for only $179.98..
 
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falcon_ib

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The new BD and Bronson jackets look great - but this thread lost me. Can someone explain which has the correct zipper for their newest run, and links to buy them at? And of course pics when they arrive !
 
Greg Gale

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It gets even more confusing. Check this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-US...75:m:mQ6Q3vivEVAQoaA3v7c1Ekg&var=472140837518

The main photo of the green one looks like my inspection photo: matching knits with blonde collar. The description, however, says that the 2018 model has dark brown collar, and there is the same picture of the new, dark collared B-10 that I posted above from the other ebay seller. If there really is a darker collar version available, and I get one of the last blondies, I'll be a bit upset :(
 
Brettafett

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Lee emailed me this pic of the new 2018 Bronson B-10. Zip puller on right.
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Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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From comments I've read from others here regarding favoring a 'slimmer' fit in jackets, be aware that the Bronson B-10 I had from last year sports just about the same amount of 'bulk' as my Buzz ST B-10, which has the period-correct double-faced alpaca-wool blend. I'm not sure if that has been changed along with placing the zipper on the correct side, but I hope not since it was toasty-warm for me last winter.. Just something to ponder....

EDIT: The 50" chest circumference for a size 44 in both the Buzz ST and the Bronson shows 6" of chest room taking the lining into consideration as an example, and after owning a size 42 Bronson, EVERY bit of the additional room going up to a 44 is necessary for me to enjoy a comfortable fit..
 
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Brettafett

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From the info I have gathered, the Bronson B-10 is a bit shorter per size than the BD. The Bronson also seems to be a touch broader in the pit to pit.
To get a slimmer fit, would mean getting a shorter jacket. After my 42 BD, which I felt was a bit 'big', I want to try a size 40... If it turns out too short, I am toying with the idea of getting another 42, and having it 'taken in a touch, in the pit to pit. The added expense is not too bad, considering the price of the jacket, especially if it equates to a 'happy' fit.
From WW2 pics, and this is very relative I know, but most of the pics I have seen of B-10s and B-152, the jackets do appear to be on the bigger side... mostly.
 
Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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The BD B-10 length of 27.2" in a 44 would be too long for me.. The 26" length I have in my Buzz is just right.. The BD does have an edge for the taller folks out there.
 
Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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Brettafett said:
From WW2 pics, and this is very relative I know, but most of the pics I have seen of B-10s and B-152, the jackets do appear to be on the bigger side... mostly.
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I've observed the same in pics I've studied over the years. The B-10 was a winter jacket with a double-faced alpaca-wool blend lining after all, which attributes to the 'bulk'.. ;) I never had the pleasure of owning an Eastman RW B-10 repro, but from what I gather, one of it's shortcomings in the authenticity department is the use of single-faced alpaca-wool blend instead of double-faced. I suppose it's reduced 'bulk' makes it desirable to those seeking a slimmer-fit, much like their equally inauthentic 'slim' fit A-2's, which is just plain wrong IMO, and more akin to a fashion garment.. :rolleyes:
 
Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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Greg Gale said:
The Star has the same measurement as their slender A-2. Are you calling that an inaurhentic fashion garment too? ;)
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Sorta-kinda, YES.. I suspected yours was indeed a slim fit, since I have not seen many, or any original Stars with such a slim upper sleeve circumference like yours.. EDIT: I haven't extensively studied the original Stars in-depth, so there could be some out there however...
 
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Greg Gale

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So you prefer to state that Gary didn't do his homework properly rather than admitting that your theory is not correct. Gary copied it from originals (and not by extrapolating measurements), and IMO this is the most accurate reproduction of this contract, yet you call it inaccurate, because it doesn't match your views? Despite the countless pictures that have been posted on these forums. This attitude flips me every time. To me, this is the definition of talking from a high horse, and it's no better than that spambot/ new member who explained in his first post why A-2s cannot fit people above 40. I mean no offence, but this is my perception.

PS: here's an original size 40 with exactly the same sleeve and other proportions as mine (maybe even a bit slimmer in the chest):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-W...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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Greg Gale said:
So you prefer to state that Gary didn't do his homework properly rather than admitting that your theory is not correct. Gary copied it from originals (and not by extrapolating measurements), and IMO this is the most accurate reproduction of this contract, yet you call it inaccurate, because it doesn't match your views? Despite the countless pictures that have been posted on these forums. This attitude flips me every time. To me, this is the definition of talking from a high horse, and it's no better than that spambot/ new member who explained in his first post why A-2s cannot fit people above 40. I mean no offence, but this is my perception.

PS: here's an original size 40 with exactly the same sleeve and other proportions as mine (maybe even a bit slimmer in the chest):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWII-Star-Sportswear-MFG-Co-USAAF-type-A-2-bomber-jacket-brown-size-40-/153175819892?hash=item23a9fd8674:g:BFkAAOSwQRVbl2-j&nma=true&si=xba65gh%2BTI9U4wSV7VyNzr%2B8z9U%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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To me, the upper sleeve circumference of the eBay pic looks wider than yours.. One would have to measure to be certain. As for Gary Eastman's 'authenticity'.. It's pretty much on-par now, but one only has to look at quite a few years of the earlier versions with their EXTREMELY drooping shoulders, and pockets placed practically up to the armpits to know he hasn't always been the pinnacle of A-2 authenticity..

EDIT: And to address some of the sentiments above, you forget that I am entitled to my views and opinions just as you are yours. I venture to guess that I have MANY more years of experience in this 'hobby' than you. I do not participate in many of the 'circle-jerks' of likes and compliments that I see when someone posts a jacket here.

Hell, sometimes I think that depending upon the person, a Member's Only jacket could be posted, and garner a slew of likes and compliments. At the end of the day, all that matters is that YOU like your jacket and how it looks, but don't be so self-absorbed to think that everyone else who sees you wearing it likes it, and how it fits like you do... I'm not here to win any friends (I have all I need in real-life), and could care less what other folks I've never met (and more than likely will not meet) think of how my jackets look, or of my views and opinions. I post pics for my own pleasure....not others, although it is appreciated when compliments are received, and nice when others do find some enjoyment from viewing them.
 
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Greg Gale

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Have you seen a photo of mine taken in the same fashion? I've never taken one. How do you know I bought it years ago? It's not even a year old.

Back on topic: my Bronson will probably be delivered tomorrow. Then I'll see if it's the new one, or I'll have to pass it on. Which I will ,because that new model looks exactly like I want a B-10 to look.
 
Greg Gale

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I think these photos are leftovers from last year that they keep using (see the blonde collar). The new ones doesn't seem to have seamed knits, but it's hard to tell. We shall see.
 
falcon_ib

falcon_ib

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Good eye Greg, it's hard for me to spot the little differences with my red-green colorblindness! Looking forward to a review and pictures of the jacket.
 
Technonut2112

Technonut2112

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falcon_ib said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bro...df-43eb-94ef-dad1f82ee132&transAbTest=ae803_4

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These photos of the Bronson red knit B-10 from aliexpress suggest that it is a left hand zip. Maybe they're using up stock from their left-hand zips before dipping into the right-hand ones? I would love to own one of the Bronson RW clones, but I want to make sure that it has a right-hand zip.

Brett, did Lee mention if the 2018 models have seamed knits?

Evan
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Going by the 'VTGDR' on the AliExpress pics, it appears that they are the same business as the eBay seller. Same 'VTGDR' as was on my PayPal receipt...
 
B-Man2

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Not trying to step on the thread , but if anyone has seen any info on the new BD or Bronson B-15a jacket in a larger size 44 or 46 would you PM me the info?.
Thanks
 
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