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B-10 Buzz vs Aero....
- Thread starter Cobblers161
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Peter Graham
Well-Known Member
I'm a bit skeptical that B-10's were ever made with red knits. It deviates so much from the original spec, but I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.Cobblers161 said:
Peter Graham said:
And if there is the odd example around wearing A-2 knits, it seems more likely that they were replacements.
But I'd still buy it.
.... and what can we expect from Buzz Rickson next year? The G-1 with sage knits from a MA-1?
I'm hoping for the one with socks.
Peter Graham
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:lol: :lol:deeb7 said:
khiattP-51
New Member
deeb7 said:
I have that exact Buzz Superior Toggs with the red knits. While I too never saw an original with such, this jacket is simply awesome. It looks stunning in person. It is to the B-10 what a Goodwear is to the A-2. It truly looks like a dead stock original.
The Buzz Superior B-10 is firmly locked on my "will never, ever sell unless really, really, super desperate" list.
-Kevin
Cobblers161
Well-Known Member
khiattP-51 said:
Hows the sizing Kevin? I'm dissapointed it's not a 'true' repro as the notes on the BR indicate it was but it is rather handsome.
khiattP-51
New Member
It is a size 40 and it fits true to the tag - exactly as I would expect a vintage 40 to fit. I think it's about 22.5" or 23" pit to pit. From what I know about the B-10 pattern, this would be right in line with vintage sizing. I remember looking at the Japanese web sites which sell them and seeing what looks to be unusually long sleeve measurements for the tag size.....I was afraid the sleeves would be too long. I think it's how they measure because the sleeves are perfect length.
It's warm and very comfortable to wear. I thought I had some pictures of it on my photobucket site, but I did not. I need to update it with new pics of all my gear.
Well,...... I've slept on it since the last post and I'm still certain that I'll never sell it unless really, really, super, wife just kicked me out with the dog desperate
-Kevin
It's warm and very comfortable to wear. I thought I had some pictures of it on my photobucket site, but I did not. I need to update it with new pics of all my gear.
Well,...... I've slept on it since the last post and I'm still certain that I'll never sell it unless really, really, super, wife just kicked me out with the dog desperate
-Kevin
khiattP-51 said:
So it's similar to the Rough Wear pattern, both the BR, and the Eastman measure at 22.5" in a size 40.
What colour are the knits, Kevin? On the BR site they appear brown, other pictures show them as anything from red, through to dark brown.
And who supplied it (if it's not a secret). ??
I never sell it unless really, really, super, wife just kicked me out with the dog desperate
I can wait .......... :lol:
khiattP-51
New Member
David,
The knits on mine are red like the Hell's Angels model. Or, like Aero's red knits.
I bought it from a guy in the U.K.
-Kevin
The knits on mine are red like the Hell's Angels model. Or, like Aero's red knits.
I bought it from a guy in the U.K.
-Kevin
Terry le Pirat
New Member
Hi, i think the BR "red rib version" of the B-10 looks very good, and have searched all my books for pictures of a original B-10 with red knits.
Hard to tell in b/w pictures, but some do show a lot of contrast between jacket and knits, on the other hand, there seems to be a lot of originals where the knitting is very much darker or lighter shade of green than the jacket, would of course also show contrast in b/w pictures.
In "Gear up" page 80, the picture from the USAAF illustrated catalouge, that B-10 seems to have very different shade of knits, and might be a early sample?
In the 353rd FG history "Jonah's feet are dry" by G.E. Cross (Thunderbolt publishing 2001), there is a picture on p 315 of two airmen standing together, one in a B-10 and one in a A-2, and the B-10 shows much contrast in colour, and comparing the "knit-colour-greyscale" of the A-2 and the B-10, they look quite similar.
However, i am no expert on contrast and the different grey-scales with ortho- and panachromatic films and all that, so it is of course very hard to really be sure.
Perhaps someone with japanese-speaking contacts could get help to drop BR a line and ask if they have an orignal?
I guess a period colour photo or an orignal is what is needed to solve the issue, but there is of course also the chance of field repair and so on...
Great forum by the way, nice with all you guys shearing your knowledge and your collections.
/Jerry
Hard to tell in b/w pictures, but some do show a lot of contrast between jacket and knits, on the other hand, there seems to be a lot of originals where the knitting is very much darker or lighter shade of green than the jacket, would of course also show contrast in b/w pictures.
In "Gear up" page 80, the picture from the USAAF illustrated catalouge, that B-10 seems to have very different shade of knits, and might be a early sample?
In the 353rd FG history "Jonah's feet are dry" by G.E. Cross (Thunderbolt publishing 2001), there is a picture on p 315 of two airmen standing together, one in a B-10 and one in a A-2, and the B-10 shows much contrast in colour, and comparing the "knit-colour-greyscale" of the A-2 and the B-10, they look quite similar.
However, i am no expert on contrast and the different grey-scales with ortho- and panachromatic films and all that, so it is of course very hard to really be sure.
Perhaps someone with japanese-speaking contacts could get help to drop BR a line and ask if they have an orignal?
I guess a period colour photo or an orignal is what is needed to solve the issue, but there is of course also the chance of field repair and so on...
Great forum by the way, nice with all you guys shearing your knowledge and your collections.
/Jerry
Hawkeye
Member
Well, the Buzz Roughwear B-10 I bought off of Tankbuster last week arrived today, and I'm thrilled. It fits great, its warm and looks fantastic. Its an inch shorter than my a-2, but feels longer than the a-2 when worn, perhaps because the leather a-2 tends to ride up, while the cloth doesnt. I think I may have found a new favourite!
