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Advice For Newbie A-2 Buyer
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mulceber
Moderator
you put it better than I could.
mulceber
Moderator
14 weeks, 6 days at present (they just finished producing my RW 23380).
Brettafett
Well-Known Member
Thats a good call. I will add though, that the wait for a top-tier jacket, frustrating as it is... Is well worth it!
Brettafett
Well-Known Member
Quality, workmanship and authenticity between the top makers, all being top-notch, I recon I could buy another ELC... if only for the excellent customer service and shorter wait times, even for a custom jacket.
I am becoming more and more reluctant to wait months and months for a jacket. And more and more despondent when it does not fit as expected (even after numerous emails)...
Tired of losing money due to fit issues...Perhaps its time to have an operation and shorten my arms.
I am becoming more and more reluctant to wait months and months for a jacket. And more and more despondent when it does not fit as expected (even after numerous emails)...
Tired of losing money due to fit issues...Perhaps its time to have an operation and shorten my arms.
Brettafett
Well-Known Member
Yeah, once you've had a couple of decent jackets, you have a good idea of what works for you and the poor-fit issue is minimised, but still.... Nothing beats trying on a jacket, and going, "yeah, this with an inch added to the sleeves please". And four weeks later, you have a perfecty fitting jacket.
Edit: That said, waiting a few months for a high end jacket that ticks all your boxes, is worth the wait. And saving £300-400 makes it feel that much better
Edit: That said, waiting a few months for a high end jacket that ticks all your boxes, is worth the wait. And saving £300-400 makes it feel that much better
On a more positive note, I bought a pot of ELC's Horse Oil and from initial tests it seems very good indeed - easy to put on, not thick and greasy like Pecards, soaks in quickly and seems to do a good job in softening the leather. At £25, or whatever, for only a small pot it isn't cheap, but is enough for quite a few jackets - and as I don't have many nowadays, that's ok!
DiamondDave
Well-Known Member
Gents,
Im not sure we can give Platon that distinction. Platon is a salesman and not an artisan. He doesn’t make anything but noise and enemies. He has a Couple of guys on staff, supposedly a cutter and a seamer, that I think are indeed artisans, and follow the instructions set forth By Platon/Andy.
Many times have I seen this argument that a maker should answer all emails “on the spot”, then is given a pass since he is off sewing. That is JC, myself and Steve S. we are operators of sewing machines, but more importantly we are:
IT
Web Design
Pattern maker
Pattern Grader
Sales
Cutter
And Finally the sewing operator, and all of its many facets. There are rules to everything we do, that are set in stone and must be remembered if the jacket is to be made correctly according to the pattern it emulates.
Food for thought.
DD
Im not sure we can give Platon that distinction. Platon is a salesman and not an artisan. He doesn’t make anything but noise and enemies. He has a Couple of guys on staff, supposedly a cutter and a seamer, that I think are indeed artisans, and follow the instructions set forth By Platon/Andy.
Many times have I seen this argument that a maker should answer all emails “on the spot”, then is given a pass since he is off sewing. That is JC, myself and Steve S. we are operators of sewing machines, but more importantly we are:
IT
Web Design
Pattern maker
Pattern Grader
Sales
Cutter
And Finally the sewing operator, and all of its many facets. There are rules to everything we do, that are set in stone and must be remembered if the jacket is to be made correctly according to the pattern it emulates.
Food for thought.
DD
Saint-ex
Well-Known Member
So @DiamondDave , what is your lead time ?
DiamondDave
Well-Known Member
Technonut2112
Well-Known Member
Actually, regarding delivery times, the Terms and Conditions on Platon's site state:
Always pays to thoroughly read the T&C on any manufacturer's site.. Technically once a purchase is made, the T&C are agreed to by the buyer, and would be grounds for PayPal to deny a claim for a refund if an order cancellation was attempted before 6-8 months have passed for any "factors outside of Platon's control", as long as the buyer is notified of the delay (PayPal's limit to file a claim is 6 months).
Always pays to thoroughly read the T&C on any manufacturer's site.. Technically once a purchase is made, the T&C are agreed to by the buyer, and would be grounds for PayPal to deny a claim for a refund if an order cancellation was attempted before 6-8 months have passed for any "factors outside of Platon's control", as long as the buyer is notified of the delay (PayPal's limit to file a claim is 6 months).
I'm certainly not suggesting a refund. But on their much more visible "About Us" its says "We aim to deliver within 6 to 12 weeks" (although admittedly without guarantee). I'm prepared to wait, but in the business I run I would be more overt about delivery expectation, to build customer loyalty.
Micawber
Well-Known Member
With respect but carry on at this rate and you are in for a whole lot of frustration right up until the day the parcel containing your jacket is delivered.
Ok, that's me, I'm out. When I was part of this forum many years ago there wasn't all this finger pointing. To be clear, I've not moaned about the wait, just said it's not professional to state what isn't the case and thereby manage expectation, it's a pity you can't see this. In the 'olden days' this forum was much more positive and enthusiastic, but sadly its not like that now.
