A2 Lining type

[Alliance507]

Good info. Thanks @coolhandluke

 

[TrainDriver]

I would normally say to find a contract that has a wider back panel and shoulders, but your RW should meet that criteria. A contract with inset sleeves will help as well.

Based on your photos, the shoulder width looks disproportionately narrow, which is likely the root of the issue. I believe the rear shoulder measurement should be at least 20" in that size/ contract, so 5*'s pattern might not be entirely accurate for a size 48 23380. Changing the liner material isn't going to make any appreciable difference. You might go one size up and have the sleeves, waist, and chest measurements tweeked a bit (or stick with a 48 and have the shoulder width and pack panel measurements increased). Wearing a tag size that is 6" larger than your chest measurement isn't completely uncommon.

Do you have any pics of you wearing the jacket that show how it fits?

Here's photos of a GW 23380 showing proper fit. Plenty of room in the back and the shoulder seams fall down below the edge of the shoulder.

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Though these pics aren’t nearly as good and my body not nearly as flattering, these are the only pics I have…

The one with me reaching across my body is what I call the “seat belt test”. That’s how far my jacket let’s me reach back to grab my seat belt before it stops my natural reach and I have to turn my body the rest of the way.

 

[coolhandluke]

Just my opinion, but I think that you need to take one size larger, based on where the shoulder seams are located and the lack of blousing in your abdominal area. That being said, the tightness that you are referring to with your "seatbelt test" is typical for the A-2 pattern. You might look into USN jackets with bi-swing back panels if you need more mobility.

 

[TrainDriver]

Just my opinion, but I think that you need to take one size larger, based on where the shoulder seams are located and the lack of blousing in your abdominal area. That being said, the tightness that you are referring to with your "seatbelt test" is typical for the A-2 pattern. You might look into USN jackets with bi-swing back panels if you need more mobility.

Thanks.
I think the lack of blousing in my abdomen is probably due as much to the lack of proper diet and exercise in my life as it is to a jacket ordered 4 sizes larger! My zipper screams in agony until it gets over that hump, then chuckles a little when it gets to where my pectoral muscles should be. I think going up to a 50 would: A - insult me, no matter how much my fault it is and - B- probably kinda swallow me up top.

Perhaps just some wear and tear will help out some. I have also considered the USN jacket as well. Maybe one day.

 

[Shanghai-Mayne]

Do some (lot) sports, this jacket gonna work for you.

 

[TrainDriver]

Do some (lot) sports, this jacket gonna work for you.

Will it help if I do the sports while wearing the jacket?

 

[TrainDriver]

Thanks.
I think the lack of blousing in my abdomen is probably due as much to the lack of proper diet and exercise in my life as it is to a jacket ordered 4 sizes larger! My zipper screams in agony until it gets over that hump, then chuckles a little when it gets to where my pectoral muscles should be. I think going up to a 50 would: A - insult me, no matter how much my fault it is and - B- probably kinda swallow me up top.

Perhaps just some wear and tear will help out some. I have also considered the USN jacket as well. Maybe one day.

Do you have a recommendation of makers and contracts which are a little more fuller cut or more “forgiving”?

 

[B-Man2]

Do you have a recommendation of makers and contracts which are a little more fuller cut or more “forgiving”?

Don’t despair! …. Many of us have similar issues. It’s not your fault ( well really it is, but it makes both of us with the same issues feel better when I say that ) Here’s the problem in a nutshell . A2 jackets were made for guys 18-30 year olds who were all militarily physically fit , lean and trim. Not for guys in their 40-70s . They were made with standard physical dimensions for each size , another words. Size 40 had shoulders a specific width and a tapered drop to the bottom waist of the jacket . Same with sizes 42 , 44, 46, etc etc . Now here we are today . We’re all older, bigger , wider , taller , heavier etc etc . All of us trying to figure out what size jacket will fit our oversized waists , shoulders and backs.
Even if you buy a custom tailored Good Wear the jacket isn’t going to look right because the shoulder , chest , and waist dimensions will be out of portion to what the jacket is supposed to look like when it’s being worn .
Anyway you get the point. Wear your jacket and enjoy it , forget about the little swells and stretch lines it’s showing. Use those as incentives to do better and trim down to where that jacket fits you just the way you’d like it to fit . Hell, I’ve gone up and down my entire life, but now I hang around a size 46 or 48 jacket . You’re part of “the team” now and we’re all going to be here going thru the same thing right beside you .
Cheers mate !!

 

[Shanghai-Mayne]

Will it help if I do the sports while wearing the jacket?

Walk ten miles a day , with the jacket, help your jacket fit on your body, and lose some weight .

 

[billwong]

I guess its not just me. It is easier to change size than habit.