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I have seen the sphinx facing in both directions on the Liberandos insignia, which is correct?
shedonwanna said:The official description from Maurer given above was designed to be worn on the left breast. If a squadron patch was worn on the left brest then the group patch was worn on the right breast and the sphinx would be in sinister. Dexter is considered the position of honor yet if the group patch is displayed/worn on the right the sphinx would give the impression of retreat or fleeing. That is to say, if the group patch was worn on the right, which was common, the the sphinx was transposed. This transposed position was copied over the years without regard for the official heraldic description. Simply put, depending on which side you plan to wear the patch, have the sphinx face inward toward the center of the jacket.
No unwritten guidelines - they were just as confused as we are! Sometimes individuals just did what they wanted and at other times a group commander and his staff would have guidelines or regulations in place. After changes in command some regulations may not get enforced. The way some things got done varied from group to group and commander to commander. Some command staff would concern themselves with how jackets were decorated and others would leave it up to individual squadrons or crews. Different styles of leadership and different tastes in artistic expression. As for us, the correct way may be to find a vintage example and replicate it as a tribute to the veteran who wore it.chitchat said:Just found this original, I guess there was an unwritten guildline, But still confusing.
Question , on this patch shown, do the symbols on the bomb nose have numbers on them, if so what are they please ??????????chitchat said:You might be right.
EMBLEMHUNTER said:Question , on this patch shown, do the symbols on the bomb nose have numbers on them, if so what are they please ??????????chitchat said:You might be right.
Johnny
shedonwanna said:EMBLEMHUNTER said:Question , on this patch shown, do the symbols on the bomb nose have numbers on them, if so what are they please ??????????chitchat said:You might be right.
Johnny
The following description on the 376th web site describes the meaning of the symbols. Also, looks like the Louis crew was with the 513th squadron and completed their 50 missions. The diamond, square triangle and circle are described below... 15, 9 and 12 inscribed in the symbols to represent the 15th, 9th and 12th Air Force. This patch tells a story!
" Significance of the Liberandos Emblem
On a blue shield bordered by yellow, in base, a stylized wing sphinx yellow, shaded orange, edged blue, resting on a terra cotta red base, in the upper right, a bomb, yellow point downward, thereon a disc and diamond, terra cotta red, a triangle, blue, a square, terra cotta red.
The blue and yellow are the colors of the Air Force. The winged sphinx in yellow is symbolic of the service in the Middle East Theater where the Group began its first historical tradition. The diamond, circle, square and triangle are for each squadron's service in Palestine. The blue of the field is also emblematic of the intense blue of the African sky at night and represents the theater where heroic missions were sucessfully accomplished.
The terra cotta red beneath the winged sphinx is symbolic of the desert around Gambut, Soluch and Benghazi. The motto "LIBERANDOS", is a romantic coining from the B-24 Liberators. The bomb in the right side of the shield is emblematic of the missions of the 376th Bombardment Group (H)."
Hey Stu , great jacket , thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you possibly have a good close up of the 376th patch , especially in the "bomb" in the upper right ?????????????????????oose said: