Any Watch Experts Here

[Rocky]

If so what's your thoughts on this one, and is it worth that type of money.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-ORIGI ... 1392040607

 

[watchmanjimg]

I'm not sure I'd call myself an "expert" but I am an enthusiast. My understanding is that these 24-hour movements just happen to fit into certain wristwatch cases like that of the A-11, but most were sourced from (I believe) post-WW2 gun cameras and similar equipment. The few if any original watches with 24-hour movements are not A-11s. Thus, this appears to be what is called in certain circles a "Frankenwatch" and in my opinion is being grossly misrepresented by the seller.

 

[JDAM]

Nope, it's bolox.

 

[Clark J]

Jim is correct!Should be a 647 or a 685 (post WW2)movement if I remember correctly,,,which means I'm probably wrong but that's what I'm going with!!Cool looking but never made.

 

[unclegrumpy]

Are you guys sure about this?

Watches are not an area I feel that knowledgeable about, but seeing this caused me to dig into my watch box. I've got one of these that I have had for a very long time, but can't remember now where it came from. It is a 24 hour Elgin exactly the same as the one on eBay, except the ordnance number is W33-038ac-6600.

Given I have never thought much about this one, I am not too worried either way, but it would be really neat for me if you guys were wrong.

 

[watchmanjimg]

Are you guys sure about this?

Watches are not an area I feel that knowledgeable about, but seeing this caused me to dig into my watch box. I've got one of these that I have had for a very long time, but can't remember now where it came from. It is a 24 hour Elgin exactly the same as the one on eBay, except the ordnance number is W33-038ac-6600.

Given I have never thought much about this one, I am not too worried either way, but it would be really neat for me if you guys were wrong.

They're nice little watches but most were modified as stated above, apparently in good numbers. I'd simply enjoy it as you have been.

 

[Clark J]

Was on a Yahoo watch forum in 04 and remember that I printed some Elgin movement/serial # info and from what I see there where no "true" 24 hr movements made in WW2,these weren't made until '51 all with ser #s F-XXXXX and these were 647 movements.That being said there is a note that a 685 "true" 24 hr movement (ser I-2554) was made in "55 that is listed as "Black "true" 24 hr dial in a 1945 3 pieced screw case".?? SO???? Who knows?

 

[watchmanjimg]

Was on a Yahoo watch forum in 04 and remember that I printed some Elgin movement/serial # info and from what I see there where no "true" 24 hr movements made in WW2,these weren't made until '51 all with ser #s F-XXXXX and these were 647 movements.That being said there is a note that a 685 "true" 24 hr movement (ser I-2554) was made in "55 that is listed as "Black "true" 24 hr dial in a 1945 3 pieced screw case".?? SO???? Who knows?

There's a claim of an "A-12" produced in limited numbers with the 24h movement but the one here and all others I've seen were put together from instrument watches. Here's an example of a civilian model using a military-style case and fitted with a military case back with A-17A inscription in lieu of the original plain back. Although this watch came from the factory with the 24h movement, the seller can't resist the urge to engage in a bit of hyperbole in the listing . . . :roll:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Mens-Korea ... 1135200502

 

[unclegrumpy]

They're nice little watches but most were modified as stated above, apparently in good numbers. I'd simply enjoy it as you have been.

Sounds like I was "enjoying it" in a most proper fashion....buried at the bottom of a box!

Too bad, I was really hoping I had won the lotto :lol:

 

[TankBuster]

Jim is correct!Should be a 647 or a 685 (post WW2)movement if I remember correctly,,,which means I'm probably wrong but that's what I'm going with!!Cool looking but never made.

That's what I thought too Clarky. Kind of thought Franken Watch when I first looked at it. Looks cool, but how the heck did he come up with that price!?!?! I have lots of A-11's I will sell for half that! haha