A Little Worrying - Aero's 'NOS' Zips

[269sqnhudson]

Aero's NOS Talon Zips

Anyone know if these are bonafide? There's a used seal goat A2 for sale on their website and they say it has an NOS WWII Talon but in the pic it's a repro.

Any ideas?
T

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Aero's NOS Talon Zips

Yeah, it's a NOS repro.
just kidding...

 

[Steve27752]

Re: Aero's NOS Talon Zips

Email or phone them and ask.

 

[269sqnhudson]

I was recently looking at getting an Aero (Scottish type). I haven't had one for many years and do like their hides.
However, I emailed them with a concern about the NOS WWII Talon zip option. On their used jackets section they show a Goatskin A2 with what they describe as an NOS Talon zip......only it's not, it's a repro. I received a reply from Amanda saying it is an NOS zip.

We all know this isn't the case I think. Anyone know them enough to let them know? It's £50 for a duff upgrade

 

[269sqnhudson]

I duplicated threads there, sorry! Nonetheless if anyone can offer assistance do let me know!

 

[269sqnhudson]

I replied with this email. hope it sorts it out

'Hi Amanda,

Thanks for your reply. I know you have a number of regular customers who are serious collectors like myself. I really think you shoulld run it by them as they will tell you it's the same reproduction used by Eastman, Buzz Rickson etc. The originals have a different slide shape. It's subtle but easy to spot.

Here is a pic of an original, note the shape of the top edge of the slider body, it doesn't drop off at the sides like the repros. This is really a very well known way to differentiate.

I hope this helps in the end, I'm not being critical but just pointing out a problem.

Tom'

 

[269sqnhudson]

Amanda emailed to say she and Will are gooing to contact the supplier who sells them to Aero as NOS WWII and let them know what I said.

I really think if any of you guys can chip in then do, clearly Aero are being fibbed to by their supplier.

Tom

 

[HHjackets]

does that means they can't tell the difference then?
they have jackets with ww2 zippers on them, and they can't tell the difference between the zipper on those and the repros?
why does a company with so many years experience of handling, collecting, buying, selling ww2 jackets etc need to ask others whether it's a ww2 zipper or not?

 

[269sqnhudson]

does that means they can't tell the difference then?
they have jackets with ww2 zippers on them, and they can't tell the difference between the zipper on those and the repros?
why does a company with so many years experience of handling, collecting, buying, selling ww2 jackets etc need to ask others whether it's a ww2 zipper or not?

Well it looks like it. I don't think Aero are deliberately misleading people.
I told them I could send a near endless supply of photos of originals if their supplier disagrees. They have originals at the factory too I assume. They won't find one with a slider that shape that's for sure

T

 

[Persimmon]

T
Can you post a picture of an original and the repro side by side as per your email to Aero
For many newer, perhaps less experienced and knowledgable members, it would be a useful reference

 

[269sqnhudson]

T
Can you post a picture of an original and the repro side by side as per your email to Aero
For many newer, perhaps less experienced and knowledgable members, it would be a useful reference

Sure!
It's all in the top edge of the slider


Original

Repro

 

[Anonymous]

It's not only that.
The teeth of the original are sharp.
The repro's arent.

 

[m444uk]

I had a look at my old ELC RW B6. I'm assuming real WWII Talons say 'made in' not just USA

 

[Roughwear]

The shape of the Aero Talon slider is quite wrong-too curved at the top to be an original as the comparative pic shows. Eastman repro Talons have a similar profile. NOS Talons cost $60 from Vintage Productions in the USA. They sell their zips from MASH, but at more reasonable prices.

 

[HHjackets]

unfortunately the pics are not showing up but i remembered this topic had come up before:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1896&hilit=talon

 

[RCSignals]

do any of the repros also have the 'art deco' style bottom box/stop ?

 

[HHjackets]

they do, they have quite clean cut lines compared to ww2 ones.
http://www.goodwearleather.com
is a good place to check them out.

 

[RCSignals]

Thanks. so some of the reproductions do have the "art deco" style box.

I think I can also see a slight difference in the zipper teeth between the original and the repro.