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What is the point.....

havocpaul

Active Member
in bidding on eBay these days! If sellers aren't pulling items because someone has sneakily offered an off-eBay deal then it seems sellers now cancel items just because they haven't had enough bids! Stupid really when it seems most bids are snipes and therefore at the last minute. Just happened again and the seller messaged me to say it was being relisted so I'm welcome to bid on the revised listing...I had so far been the only bidder with less than a day to go...but is it worth it? My best chances now lie solely with sellers offering BIN prices, it seems otherwise no point in looking forward to and anticipating my bid might actually win anything anymore.....
 

chamboid

Member
Surely this is a case of if you can't beat them join them. it's annoying loosing out, especially to a snipe bit, but there is now way to beat it, so use it.

Offering outside ebay is risky, incase you get caught, or reported that could stop all your fun all together.

But pulling items isn't allowed is it? Unless its specified that it's listed elsewhere for sale and it sells form there.
 

Dr H

Well-Known Member
Yes, the latter looks similar to a Perry 16175-P, but it has diagonal stitching on the wind flap panel (and the collar looks just a smidge wide) so it's probably a Roughwear.
 

havocpaul

Active Member
No issues with sniping, though don't use it myself. wasn't an A-2, another jacket the seller wasn't happy he had only my bid with 17 hours to go! You can end auctions early, ebay have a list of reasons so makes it too easy although they used to look into sellers who repeatedly did it, getting more than iritating now though I know some folk here do it and have no qualms about it. If you're happy to get that jacket by no matter what means or rules then I guess it's got beyond just a hobby but some sellers are now becoming untrustworthy and not worth a watch never mind a bid.
 

chamboid

Member
Rules are great, but only if everybody adheres to them. And online bidding is to big to even know if everyone's playing the same game.

Best to play by you're own rules for what ever serves you.

But I do understand. It's infuriating. When ever I have sold anything it's tense, thinking damn, I've lost money on that. But it's always in the last hour that it happens. Same as live bidding, you don't want to be the first person to bid, but the last.
 

ciddu

Member
This subject has been already addressed many times here in various threads.
Sniping is a legit practice (everyone is allowed to bid whenever he wants, 'til the last second of the auction),
pulling items is not: bidding is a binding agreement, and with my bid as a buyer I'm committed to buy - so why the seller should not be committed to sell?
But I know I'm somewhat naive about it, and that's common practice nowadays... I just ended up with a list of sellers I will not bid to anymore because I find their regular habit of pulling Items really annoying.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
pulling items is not

I disagree, pulling the item simply means that the seller could bid higher than you.
The seller is a seller only if the fair market value rationale is fulfilled.

"The fair market value is the price at which the property would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller"
 

ciddu

Member
PLATON said:
pulling items is not

I disagree, pulling the item simply means that the seller could bid higher than you.
The seller is a seller only if the fair market value rationale is fulfilled.

"The fair market value is the price at which the property would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller"

In this case you're supposed to issue the auction with a higher opening bid, or to set a reserve price.
If it's actually an auction, the seller agrees beforehand to sell the item to the highest bidder , if the highest bid is over the reserve price - that's the reason for the existence of the reserve price .
 
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Anonymous

Guest
This is how things work on ebay, but not necessarily in real life
or at auction houses, I don't know.

One time I was offering $500 for an original A-2 to someone and he refused saying that he wanted to let the auction end.
In the end I won it for $250. The seller delivered.
 

ciddu

Member
Yes, I know I'm naive expecting that everybody always plays by the rules, But nonetheless when it happens to me I can't help feeling quite disappointed.
But I know it's happening very often, so I'll have to try to take it easy... sooner or later there's always another auction
 
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