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Star Sportswear A-2
- Thread starter Chandler
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I remember Ken Calder talking about the Star on the Classic 20th. His observations were that it was one of the trimmest cut A2s per its tagged size. I believe he had a 44 that was only about 23 inches or slightly less around the chest. Obviously a true sized 44 man would really not be able to comfortably pull it off.
buzzthetower
Administrator
The original size 44 Star Sportswear A-2 that I used for my pattern has these dimensions:
Front along zipper: 23"
Front chest width under arms: 25.5"
Back width under arms: 24"
Shoulders: 20.25"
Sleeves: 24.75"
The jacket does fit trimly, but it's a far better design in relation to the human body than most A-2s. The top of the shoulders in the back are quite wide, and with the inset sleeves, this makes the sleeves not ride up the arm more than a half inch when outstretched forward. Other A-2s would have the sleeves ride up 2-3 inches when reaching fully forward, but the Star doesn't, and feels good when reaching out.
I think it's an exceptional design. The sleeves are proportionately a little short, but so are several other A-2 patterns.
J
Front along zipper: 23"
Front chest width under arms: 25.5"
Back width under arms: 24"
Shoulders: 20.25"
Sleeves: 24.75"
The jacket does fit trimly, but it's a far better design in relation to the human body than most A-2s. The top of the shoulders in the back are quite wide, and with the inset sleeves, this makes the sleeves not ride up the arm more than a half inch when outstretched forward. Other A-2s would have the sleeves ride up 2-3 inches when reaching fully forward, but the Star doesn't, and feels good when reaching out.
I think it's an exceptional design. The sleeves are proportionately a little short, but so are several other A-2 patterns.
J
greyhound52
New Member
Hey John remember the Star size 44 we looked at was about a 42.
Chandler
Well-Known Member
buzzthetower said:
Here are measurements from My ELC Star as comparison (which is why I was asking originally):
Front along zipper: 23.125" -- this is the length of the zip, add another .5" for the windflap length
Front chest width under arms: 23.875" -- rather big difference there.
Back width under arms: 24.5"
Shoulders: 20"
Sleeves: 23" -- This is laid flat, from the epaulet/shoulder seam straight down the top edge of sleeves, to the end of the leather.
Since it was really the sleeve length I was most concerned with, I guess this just proves to me: I do have T-rex arms. :cry:
The sleeve length is really the only thing I dislike about my Star, everything else fits very nicely -- to Roughwear's comment, I usually wear a 44 in most all my jackets and coats (60 odd years of clothing pattern development taken into thought), but I've often had trouble fitting ELC's 44s in other patterns.
Chandler
buzzthetower
Administrator
Shoulder width on my original is straight across from shoulder tip to shoulder tip.
The leather of the sleeves is 22.25"...very short for a size 44. With the cuff it's 24.75"
J
The leather of the sleeves is 22.25"...very short for a size 44. With the cuff it's 24.75"
J
Chandler said:
A half inch is normal ... certainly with the measurements that I've noted, and there's at least that much variation between jackets of the same size.
If you increased the arm length by an inch per size, and made the 38, say 24", by the time you'd graded the pattern up to a 48, you would be looking at 29" sleeves.
