oops, ....John Wayne

[dujardin]

just before reading the post on Flynn's jacket and the discussion on John Wayne, i had the idea to post some photos i just discover concerning the movie ''flying tigers''.
i will follow my idea and post the photos, there is one in real good resolution.

for us in Europe (me in Belgium), there is no importance regarding his involvment during conflict. combat or not; hero or not.
he is for us (me) a great movie star.

byeeeeee marcel

 

[Vcruiser]

Great pics,Marcel!
In any event..John Wayne was a hell of a man!
Van

 

[bob capa]

the jacket is pretty cool,snap on the windflap,expsoed snaps on pockets

 

[fishmeok]

Is it just me, or does that jacket have an underarm gusset?
Cheers
Mark

 

[bob capa]

Fish,i think its me as well

 

[fishmeok]

Bet that's a comfy A-2. Not a bad idea, and it doesn't really change the look of the jacket. Also the epaulet has no stitching on it!
I could make one and call it the "Flying Tiger"
Cheers
Mark

 

[Dr H]

Is that a line of stitching above the waistband (along the lines of the 1939 Werber)?

Any evidence of snaps on those collar ends?

 

[Chandler]

Is it just me, or does that jacket have an underarm gusset?

I think it's the back seam of the sleeve folded over.

As to the epps, no one thinks that's a rank tab sewn over the box stitching?

And where is everyone seeing the exposed pocket buttons, or are you just goin' by memory?

Chandler

 

[fishmeok]

If you look just in back of where the sleeve is folded over you can see a very faint stitching line, that's what looks like a gusset to me. The epaulet looks smooth to me all the way up to the neckline, no stitching beyond the box... :ugeek:

I think we need our trusted resident photo researcher Marcell to find some more pics....
Cheers
Mark

 

[Atticus]

Here's a photo from the same film. I'm no expert on WWII A-2s, but I'm guessing that JW's jacket is a Super-Duper-Doniger. Just look at those bodacious collar points!

AF

 

[Chandler]

If you look just in back of where the sleeve is folded over you can see a very faint stitching line, that's what looks like a gusset to me. The epaulet looks smooth to me all the way up to the neckline, no stitching beyond the box...

I Kinda' see what you're saying on the faint stitching for a gusset, but I agree -- we need more input to make a decision!

I think the epp drops out of sight before it reaches the neckline -- and Atticus' picture is no help, but it does show that there probably aren't any collar snaps.

Chandler

 

[bob capa]

Is that a line of stitching above the waistband (along the lines of the 1939 Werber)?

Any evidence of snaps on those collar ends?

Just the movie itself

 

[Atticus]

If you look just in back of where the sleeve is folded over you can see a very faint stitching line, that's what looks like a gusset to me. The epaulet looks smooth to me all the way up to the neckline, no stitching beyond the box...

I Kinda' see what you're saying on the faint stitching for a gusset, but I agree -- we need more input to make a decision!

I think the epp drops out of sight before it reaches the neckline -- and Atticus' picture is no help, but it does show that there probably aren't any collar snaps.

Chandler

Maybe this one will help. Is that a big silver snap I spy down near the zipper box? I dispair that Big John's just wearin' sumpthin' from the prop room.

AF

 

[fishmeok]

I always love in these older movies how it looks like the instrument panel is about fifteen feet in front of the pilot- and the A/C has no left side! :lol:
Cheers
Mark

Edit!- oops, there IS a left side, just no panel, windscreen, or front, really.
http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/WW2Pics5/92492.jpg

 

[fishmeok]

Maybe this one will help. Is that a big silver snap I spy down near the zipper box? I dispair that Big John's just wearin' sumpthin' from the prop room.

AF

Worse than that- the P-40 is made of plywood if I remember my movie history right....
Cheers
Mark

 

[fishmeok]

Off topic, but interesting what turns up when you start digging.
http://film-miniatures.com/workbench/fl ... -prop.html

Cheers
Mark

 

[Dr H]

Maybe this one will help. Is that a big silver snap I spy down near the zipper box? I dispair that Big John's just wearin' sumpthin' from the prop room.

AF

Worse than that- the P-40 is made of plywood if I remember my movie history right....
Cheers
Mark

And isn't that Dai, the cage fighter from Swansea, to Wayne's right?

 

[Chandler]

I dispair that Big John's just wearin' sumpthin' from the prop room.

I didn't think there was a question there -- from what I recall (from the last time I saw the movie with an eye for flight jackets) there's a big seam across the back of his jacket too.

Chandler

 

[Chandler]

Off topic, but interesting what turns up when you start digging.
http://film-miniatures.com/workbench/fl ... -prop.html

I could be nutty, but I don't think that's the plane (prop or otherwise) that ol' John's standin' next to in that pic!

Didn't the Curtis folks provide a lot of input for the flick? Maybe even craft?

Chandler

 

[fishmeok]

(working from memory) I think the AAC let them use one authentic P-40 and the rest were mock ups with V-8 engines to drive the prop- you can see the cylinder banks on the top of the cowl...

Wiki confirms some of this this, not that it is definitive by any means though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers_(film)
Cheers
Mark