NEW YEAR BARGAIN?

[Roughwear]

Anyone fancy this at a knock down price. They usually sell for £10K.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIOR-HOMME-BNWT-A ... 2eaa31c50b

BTW This feedback on another item he sold is revealing:

Seller of fake designer clothes Refused refund despite authenticity guarantee.

 

[Jaydee]

I like the last photo in the listing. Now you can look like Mr Bean too!

Looks comfortable! :lol: If This is what is considered fashionable these days. I think I will stick with flight jackets.

 

[Roughwear]

Yes, I think we had all stick with flight jackets.

 

[zoomer]

No bargains there, either, unless you want a Cooper. There are nearly forty Cooper A-2s on eBay at the moment. Never seen so many at one time. Even the hard-luck sizes 44 and 46 are available.

What has happened of late to make every Cooper A-2 owner want to part with his jacket? Have they finally noticed how awful the pockets look? :roll: Or just tight money and year-end bills to pay?

Meanwhile - somehow - no one with higher-end repros has any financial issues at all in these thin times, and they're holding tight to their goodies.

 

[Roughwear]

No bargains there, either, unless you want a Cooper. There are nearly forty Cooper A-2s on eBay at the moment. Never seen so many at one time. Even the hard-luck sizes 44 and 46 are available.

What has happened of late to make every Cooper A-2 owner want to part with his jacket? Have they finally noticed how awful the pockets look? :roll: Or just tight money and year-end bills to pay?

Meanwhile - somehow - no one with higher-end repros has any financial issues at all in these thin times, and they're holding tight to their goodies.

I guess things will pick up in the next few weeks as far as high end repros are concerned. Perhaps people are off-loading their Coopers to ungrade to Good Wears!

 

[CHECK6]

As i see some of you got problems with "COOPER" jackets,I don't ,they are just flight jackets ,not repro!!!!!

have a bandit day
FAB

 

[Roughwear]

As i see some of you got problems with "COOPER" jackets,I don't ,they are just flight jackets ,not repro!!!!!

have a bandit day
FAB

Although some Cooper A2s were issued to the USAF from the late 1980s the design is based on wartime A2s and as such they could be considered repros, albeit not accurate ones. So perhaps the question is what constitutes a repro and what is not a repro?

 

[CHECK6]

I AGREE ANDREW

 

[ausreenactor]

If it has a legit NSN it is issue..not repro!!

Couchy

 

[Roughwear]

If it has a legit NSN it is issue..not repro!!

Couchy

Sure many Coopers were issued jackets but nevertheless the design is based on a Wartime A2. It does not claim to replicate any particular make of A2, but nor do ELC house A2s for example. It's just a "modern" version of a much older design-whether that makes its a repro or not is a matter of opinion! :lol:

 

[ausreenactor]

If it is a Cooper with a gawdy Orange label, you could call it a goatskin repro, mall jacket or anything you like.

But if it is a post 1988 (when the USAF reintroduced the A-2) with the correct DLA and the NSN then it is GI Flying Equipment.
Just as must cred as an L-2B, MA-1 or any other....just newer and not worth as much. There are even issue versions with side
entry pockets!! Pfffttt

Couchy

 

[Roughwear]

If it is a Cooper with a gawdy Orange label, you could call it a goatskin repro, mall jacket or anything you like.

But if it is a post 1988 (when the USAF reintroduced the A-2) with the correct DLA and the NSN then it is GI Flying Equipment.
Just as must cred as an L-2B, MA-1 or any other....just newer and not worth as much. There are even issue versions with side
entry pockets!! Pfffttt

Couchy

All this is true, but its still a reproduction of a wartime A2 issued by the USAF from 1988. I see nothing incompatible with an issued jacket reproduced for the USAF from 1988 and a reproduction. Its not a new design just a modern repro adopted by the USAF.

 

[zoomer]

About all I know is they've got ±2" extra thru the shoulders and an extra panel between the fronts and back.

 

[Roughwear]

About all I know is they've got ±2" extra thru the shoulders and an extra panel between the fronts and back.

At least they don't have a two piece back and hand-warmer pockets!

 

[ausreenactor]

If it is a Cooper with a gawdy Orange label, you could call it a goatskin repro, mall jacket or anything you like.

But if it is a post 1988 (when the USAF reintroduced the A-2) with the correct DLA and the NSN then it is GI Flying Equipment.
Just as must cred as an L-2B, MA-1 or any other....just newer and not worth as much. There are even issue versions with side
entry pockets!! Pfffttt

Couchy

All this is true, but its still a reproduction of a wartime A2 issued by the USAF from 1988. I see nothing incompatible with an issued jacket reproduced for the USAF from 1988 and a reproduction. Its not a new design just a modern repro adopted by the USAF.

So you're saying a 42 Rough Wear, Speiwak or Perry contract A-2 is a reproduction of the first A-2 jackets issued?

 

[deand]

About all I know is they've got ±2" extra thru the shoulders and an extra panel between the fronts and back.

Which is why the one I own, (not a Cooper, but a Mossi, or whatever, meaning it only shares the details of a contemporary spec issue jacket, not the pedigree), doesn't really give me the A-2 look I was after...but it fits and it's a nice leather jacket.




dean

 

[Roughwear]

So you're saying a 42 Rough Wear, Speiwak or Perry contract A-2 is a reproduction of the first A-2 jackets issued?

Very funny. You have a great sense of humour. :lol: These are wartime jackets with the original drawing number 30-1415 on their spec labels, not recently produced Cooper repros. :lol:

 

[ausreenactor]

I am just of the thinking the current post 88 Type A-2 Jacket is an extension of the timeline. It is an issued piece of USAF flight
equipment, just like nomex gloves. If they do a "Flying Equipment of the USAAF & USAF of the 20th Century" the Cooper made
Saddlery A-2 jacket with the NSN will be in there. Along with all the wartime A-2s we adore. A-10 gloves and Nomex will be there.
It is all issue. The Type A-2 by Cooper is just a pattern or contract change. They would have gone through the same contract process
as with the wartime A-2's. They do not log onto a website and pick a contract and then option the velcro tab style and then wait
four to six months for it. They come bagged, in boxes via a supply system and Uncle Sam foots the bill. That is not a reproduction.
That is a Flying Jacket.

They were not going all out to make a reproduction for the fitment of the heritage patches on Fridays..

Couchy

 

[ausreenactor]

And if you count the Gulf War as wartime service (many do), then the Cooper Saddlery USAF Type A-2 is a wartime contract!!

Couchy

 

[handworn]

As Warren Buffett said, "Price is what you pay; value is what you get." Those who seek out quality which is priced accordingly seem to know that it's less expensive, relative to what you get, than the cheap stuff.

no one with higher-end repros has any financial issues at all in these thin times, and they're holding tight to their goodies.