is it original?

[RCSignals]

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[asiamiles]

Cuffs appear to have been replaced, but otherwise...

 

[RCSignals]

the numbers on that label don't seem right. The wear on the jacket could be like you'd see on an original. If it is a reproduction, what is the manufacturer?

 

[deeb7]

the numbers on that label don't seem right. The wear on the jacket could be like you'd see on an original. If it is a reproduction, what is the manufacturer?

I don't know who made it, but the numbers are made up, so it's certainly not an original ... but hey, the chest measures 22", so at least that makes it a RARE SIZE 44.

This is a VERY rare jacket due to the fact most pilots were very small.

 

[asiamiles]

Depends if by original, we mean a period jacket, or a recent repro. Initially when I saw the leather I thought mmm, modern, but looking at the throat latch and the lining it looks genuinely old.

 

[Dr H]

It's a puzzle as it looks like a Perry to me (or at least the pattern resembles my old 42-16175-P - currently being modelled by CBI elsewhere - in terms of collar stand, asymmetry of collar, cut of pocket flaps).

If it's new then the wear on the collar lining/verdigris on the latch has been well done

is it possible that the label (stitched off centre in the Perry fashion) is a more modern addition as the stitch thread doesn't look period?

Conmar zipper box and no reinforcement stitching on the bottom of the wind flap, which seals it for me...

Going to give it a go anyway and see what can be done about removing those numbers...

Well that resolution to let the Perry go didn't last long...

Phew...just remembered that I didn't manage to sell my GW Perry 42-16175-P label (here on my desk)...might come in handy

 

[Roughwear]

Interesting marriage here-a Perry Sportswear A2 from their 1942 contract with a label featuring the Bronco contract number added together with a fragment of lining.

 

[Dr H]

Might just squeeze into this one if I lay off the mince pies and don't breathe too heavily :lol:

 

[deeb7]

 

[Dr H]

Yup, that would have to go - new repair panel and new label...
Any idea about the significance of the '12', which looks like it might be period?
Substitute in the football team...?

 

[unclegrumpy]

In my mind, the jacket looks original. The label looks added. The number 12 on the back is a rack or equipment number. I don't see why anybody would add that. The multiple names make sense. Many times, reissued jackets would be the ones that found themselves getting issued for daily use.

I don't know what to make of the label. However, maybe this jacket ended up in the postwar surplus market and a surplus dealer made it and added it. The Government sometimes had the habit of removing labels from things before they sold them. The dealer would not have cared about the contract numbers, but might have cared about making his refurbished jacket more marketable.

 

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure it's a Perry that's been dicked with labelwise...

 

[Peter Graham]

The number 2 is gone from the A-2. Maybe the label is from another piece of equipment beginning with A-.

 

[Roughwear]

The label is actually from an A-4 flying suit. See pp. 96-7 of Full Gear for a complete list of contracts and this 43-1761 contract is listed on p. 96.

 

[Roughwear]

Might just squeeze into this one if I lay off the mince pies and don't breathe too heavily :lol:

Provinding the measurements are correct it is most likely a size 42 Ian, so yes no mince pies for you if you buy this Perry!

 

[Dr H]

I've asked for confirmation but I imagine you're right.
Lean Christmas ahead, I love my mince pies

 

[dmar836]

I won't get in your way. Best of luck!
Dave