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Irvin - another iron in the fire :-)

Dr H

Well-Known Member
Should it have one of those incredibly rare, phenomenally expensive elastic straps at the back of the collar?

That's also a very shaggy fleece in comparison with the real thing shown on the right...
 

Andrew

Well-Known Member
Dr H said:
Should it have one of those incredibly rare, phenomenally expensive elastic straps at the back of the collar?...
They'd deleted them by that stage in the War. Not a lot of open cockpit work happening on the job.
 

Dr H

Well-Known Member
Hmmm...thought not. Oddly elementary mistake to make, having gone to the trouble with other details?
 

Andrew

Well-Known Member
My mistake. Such things did exist. I just checked my '44 dated jacket (not as many panels at that one though), and it has a strap :shock: . It does seem superfluous however.
 

Dr H

Well-Known Member
Thanks Andrew, I've still got a lot to learn about Irvins...still waiting for that book if your namesake is reading ;)
 

Roughwear

Well-Known Member
Most later War jackets did not have the fittings for the elastic strap as it was really a hang-over from the open cockpit era. Most of the post 1943 jackets that I have seen with them were refurbished earlier jackets under the 40288 contract awarded in 1944.
 

Otter

Well-Known Member
Andrew said:
My mistake. Such things did exist. I just checked my '44 dated jacket (not as many panels at that one though), and it has a strap :shock: . It does seem superfluous however.

IIRC these jackets were also used by the Fleet Air Arm, it was still operating the Swordfish and most RAF basic trainers were still open cockpit types.
 

rich

New Member
Otter said:
these jackets were also used by the Fleet Air Arm, it was still operating the Swordfish

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John Lever

Moderator
Rob Brace at Eastman has told me that the latest skins are much softer than the first batch and that the fleece is dense and curly and lacks the sparse coarseness. They sold out in a day !
 

m444uk

Active Member
John Lever said:
Rob Brace at Eastman has told me that the latest skins are much softer than the first batch and that the fleece is dense and curly and lacks the sparse coarseness. They sold out in a day !

I was going to say the price of those was completely nuts until I saw this at £1k.
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The best ever seal B3 repro though. Retailers seem to get the time worn spec. jackets without the heavy time worn finish.
I had a look at one at American Classics in London the other day.

http://www.peggsandson.com/newest-stock ... acket.html

Cheap B3's here

http://www.mrmuddandmrgold.com/en/categ ... acket.html
 

omarco

Member
^^^ thats a lovely looking B3, does anyone know if it's going to be available from eastman direct at some stage? hopefully for a more sensible price :)
 

John Lever

Moderator
omarco said:
^^^ thats a lovely looking B3, does anyone know if it's going to be available from eastman direct at some stage? hopefully for a more sensible price :)
Yes, They are available for order when materials are re -stocked.
 
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