taikonaut
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Hi All,
I am curious about Talon zips variation and could it reflect the date and time span of production. I have found this detail from Acme website but would be grateful if anyone could add the date to the following?
From ACME website
Early Talon zips, found on pre-war jackets, had a wide bell-shaped puller with a full-circle cutout, and attached to the slider with a simple rolled hook. Other pullers, apparently of earlier vintage, had an arc-shaped cutout at the bottom and a series of vertical lines on either side.
Next came the triple-marked Talon, so called because the name Talon appears on (1) the new vertical bar of the slider, (2) the puller tab, and (3) the stopper box. These were produced with both rectangular and the new narrower bell-shaped pullers, but the bell-shaped pullers now had a half-circle cutout. The rectangular pullers are seen on A-2 jackets much less often than the bell-shaped pullers.
The next variation was to simplify the pattern on the stopper box and remove the Talon name. These unnamed stopper boxes are often seen in a hybrid configuration with the double-marked puller/slider combination.
Finally, the Talon name was removed from the vertical bar on the slider to go along with the unmarked stopper box.
Further evolution continued, with the primary difference being the change of the cutout on the puller from a half-circle back to the full circle, but by this time A-2 production was phasing out. I have, however, seen a final contract Dubow with this puller version.
I am curious about Talon zips variation and could it reflect the date and time span of production. I have found this detail from Acme website but would be grateful if anyone could add the date to the following?
From ACME website
Early Talon zips, found on pre-war jackets, had a wide bell-shaped puller with a full-circle cutout, and attached to the slider with a simple rolled hook. Other pullers, apparently of earlier vintage, had an arc-shaped cutout at the bottom and a series of vertical lines on either side.
Next came the triple-marked Talon, so called because the name Talon appears on (1) the new vertical bar of the slider, (2) the puller tab, and (3) the stopper box. These were produced with both rectangular and the new narrower bell-shaped pullers, but the bell-shaped pullers now had a half-circle cutout. The rectangular pullers are seen on A-2 jackets much less often than the bell-shaped pullers.
The next variation was to simplify the pattern on the stopper box and remove the Talon name. These unnamed stopper boxes are often seen in a hybrid configuration with the double-marked puller/slider combination.
Finally, the Talon name was removed from the vertical bar on the slider to go along with the unmarked stopper box.
Further evolution continued, with the primary difference being the change of the cutout on the puller from a half-circle back to the full circle, but by this time A-2 production was phasing out. I have, however, seen a final contract Dubow with this puller version.
