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a Lost Worlds passsed as original Dubow?
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The description does not state the jacket is a period piece.
Wasn't this artwork recently discussed as "fantasy". The jacket certainly doesn't have the authentic patina but.....
I e-mailed him as well. I hope other members will not be fearful to do this - you all are the encyclopedias we use to learn. With my limited knowledge of both repros and authentic A-2s, I would have a difficult time with these - besides looking at patina, hardwear, etc.
This occurs a lot on the US Militaria forum. Members frequently pressure sellers to be honest until the auction is stopped or the description is modified. I think it should become more prevalent. There is a M-2 para helmet(an obvious knock-off) that's over $2000 already. Many have written but the dishonest seller won't budge. Still, he and the collector community are informed.
With the repros we have today, I feel the "buyer beware" statement is unfair license to deceive. I also think it is up to each of us to, kindly, inform sellers of what they have. Who else will do it?
If not, in 20 yrs, we ourselves are in great danger of being deceived. We owe it to others who later join this hobby and to history itself.
JMO,
Dave
I e-mailed him as well. I hope other members will not be fearful to do this - you all are the encyclopedias we use to learn. With my limited knowledge of both repros and authentic A-2s, I would have a difficult time with these - besides looking at patina, hardwear, etc.
This occurs a lot on the US Militaria forum. Members frequently pressure sellers to be honest until the auction is stopped or the description is modified. I think it should become more prevalent. There is a M-2 para helmet(an obvious knock-off) that's over $2000 already. Many have written but the dishonest seller won't budge. Still, he and the collector community are informed.
With the repros we have today, I feel the "buyer beware" statement is unfair license to deceive. I also think it is up to each of us to, kindly, inform sellers of what they have. Who else will do it?
If not, in 20 yrs, we ourselves are in great danger of being deceived. We owe it to others who later join this hobby and to history itself.
JMO,
Dave
He may not have used the word 'original' but the impression seems to be there. He probably isn't deceiving, just doesn't know.
Although after I did contact him through eBay to let him know it was not a WW2 original and made by Lost Worlds (an earlier repro) and he replied 'thanks for the info'. Yet he did not annotate the auction nor let the info show under questions.
Although after I did contact him through eBay to let him know it was not a WW2 original and made by Lost Worlds (an earlier repro) and he replied 'thanks for the info'. Yet he did not annotate the auction nor let the info show under questions.
Funny, his response to me was:
Dear Sir, No where in my description do I state that this is an authentic WWII A-2 Original Jacket. I did state that I found it in an Antique Store. I have no other information on it. I did Google the Number on the tag and it stated that it was a jacket manufactured by J.A. Dubow. You can check it out on Google if you so choose. I am not trying to deceive anyone and if I new it was an original WWII Jacket I definitely would have started it out for more than $475.00. It is what it is. Thanks for your input.
This lets me know the word "reproduction" was left out as intentionally as the word "original" was. His response about the antique store shows that he knows it is very leading description(or he wouldn't have make the connection).
IMO, with historical objects, omission of the truth is certainly no less sleezy than a lie. The description of the aforementioned fake paratrooper helmet states it was found at a flea market in Normandy. These guys try to add some form of "objective provenance" to their repro items. Such defensive responses prove they are not shocked by the controversy.
I would also like to know by what circumstances this recent jacket ended up in an "antique store". Somewhere, someone was pulling someones leg.
JMO,
Dave
Dear Sir, No where in my description do I state that this is an authentic WWII A-2 Original Jacket. I did state that I found it in an Antique Store. I have no other information on it. I did Google the Number on the tag and it stated that it was a jacket manufactured by J.A. Dubow. You can check it out on Google if you so choose. I am not trying to deceive anyone and if I new it was an original WWII Jacket I definitely would have started it out for more than $475.00. It is what it is. Thanks for your input.
This lets me know the word "reproduction" was left out as intentionally as the word "original" was. His response about the antique store shows that he knows it is very leading description(or he wouldn't have make the connection).
IMO, with historical objects, omission of the truth is certainly no less sleezy than a lie. The description of the aforementioned fake paratrooper helmet states it was found at a flea market in Normandy. These guys try to add some form of "objective provenance" to their repro items. Such defensive responses prove they are not shocked by the controversy.
I would also like to know by what circumstances this recent jacket ended up in an "antique store". Somewhere, someone was pulling someones leg.
JMO,
Dave
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contact message sent to beeninboots [this morning] re: dubow. no reply. i reckon that he has gotten an earfull already.
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