A Couple Of Dubows

[D97x7]

Hi all, think this is my first thread
Just wanted to show the difference between the two I own, one Bill Kelso, one Five Star.
As you can see there are small differences in collar, pocket and epilets, to be honest I don't know which is closer to the an original, I suspect the Kelso. But I don't have an issue with the Five Star, it's just different. One thing I'm not sure about though is where the epilets meet the collar, definitely prefer the Kelso on that score.
All in all both great jacket, with the Five Star being exceptional for the price.

 

[D97x7]

A couple more pics

 

[D97x7]

Now I just need a Platon and a Buzz Rickson

 

[Amit]

Hi nick hoping you would put this up, it would have bugged me as well, I am no expert but to be honest was surprised when you purchased the 5 star.........

 

[D97x7]

I've put on a few pounds recently so the BK is a bit tight at the moment, plus I'd been wanting to try something in goat for a while, so I thought why not, at the FS price point it makes for a good beater if nothing else.

 

[s4rmark]

Hi, Nick, great jackets. I also am considering getting a five star A-2, (a Doniger In seal Goat) I’m just having a bit of an issue with their sizing chart. They seem way off compared to my other A-2’s . Are the measurements and sizes the same for both of your Dubows?

 

[D97x7]

No, the BK is a 42, the FS is an XL which if I recall is a 46,not sure without checking. BK has a 23 p to p, FS 24.

 

[s4rmark]

Thanks, I’ll have to try and get my head around their size chart.

 

[bazzer]

Great jackets thank you for sharing
Baz

 

[D97x7]

Better have a few fit pics as well.
I didn't actually realise the BK was longer until i snapped these.
Should have straightened my shirt though.

 

[bazzer]

Looks good fits you well
Baz

 

[s4rmark]

That BK leather colour is awesome, very Similar to ELC’s Roughwear 27752.

 

[leper-colony]

Great comparison!

Any differences noticed may just go back to the specific example(s) that was/were copied.

Shawn does have pictures of the one he built from, and it could be helpful to go back to those pics to see if its truly not true to the pattern.

The pocket flaps on the 5* are not the typical as you see on repros, but they definitely do match the jacket he had on hand.

Both look great!

 

[daw]

Thanks for the photos! Agree 100% they both look great. The 5* photos show how far they've come in a really short time, and considering relative cost and flexibility in customizing have to say I'd favor them next time I get into the market for an A2.

 

[B-Man2]

Hi all, think this is my first thread
Just wanted to show the difference between the two I own, one Bill Kelso, one Five Star.
As you can see there are small differences in collar, pocket and epilets, to be honest I don't know which is closer to the an original, I suspect the Kelso. But I don't have an issue with the Five Star, it's just different. One thing I'm not sure about though is where the epilets meet the collar, definitely prefer the Kelso on that score.
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Hi Nick
Great first post ! Hope you’ll consider doing more. Your photographs are nicely done as well. So... regarding the differences between your two DuBow jackets with the pocket flaps and the epaulettes, quite possibly the reason may have to do with the fact that your jackets represent two different DuBow contracts .For example the Bill Kelso is a repo of a 1755 contract which was the last contract DuBow made in 1943 , whereas the 5 Star represents the 27798 contract made in April 1942. While most jackets from the same maker follow the same patterns there are subtle difference between contracts . Looking at photos of the two contracts in my ELC A2 manual by Gary Eastman there is a very slight subtle difference in the height of the pocket flaps in the two contracts with the 1755 having an ever so slight size increase of the pocket flaps. Regarding the epaulettes, in all DuBow contracts the epaulettes are sewn in front of the shoulder seam as in your 5 Star jacket . So offering my non expert opinion , this might account for those differences in your two jackets .
Cheers

 

[D97x7]

Thanks Burt, I hadn't actually thought about the two contract differences but it sounds like a good explanation.

 

[mulceber]

Great post, Nick! It's always a treat to see your 1755, and the Five Star stacks up well next to it. How would you rate the materials?

 

[D97x7]

Thanks. Well apart from the the obvious hide difference, I think they're pretty much on a par with each other, slider on the FS feesl a little looser in construction, but the knits, liner and snaps feel about the same.

 

[busdrivermike]

Wow both fantastic jackets it would be interesting to see the 5 star in horse
I definitely agree with @B-Man2 is correct about the difference in contracts
I dug up pics that @Shawn Ali posted from his original and he seems to have matched
It’s pattern fairly accurately to my untrained eye

 

[mulceber]

Yeah, that looks like Shawn did it correctly. I wonder whether that's a pattern difference between the 1755 and 27798, or just variation in how individual jackets were constructed.