jschare
Active Member
Never seen a M-422 that looked like this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-M-4...331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a6bb190b
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-M-4...331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a6bb190b
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Yikes! What the hell is this?
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ausreenactor
Well-Known Member
This is actually a Mmmmmm?-422.
It is a hybrid M-422, B-6, CHP and 'Wilfred' jacket.
Couchy
It is a hybrid M-422, B-6, CHP and 'Wilfred' jacket.
Couchy
Silver Surfer
Well-Known Member
hahahahahahaha. paging mr. p. t. barnum
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Anonymous
Guest
They make various kinds of jackets and apparently they are from Ukraine.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/dikasoff/m.html ... 4340.l2562
I am sorry to read your sarcastic comments and don't find it very noble to laugh at others just because they don't have either the good taste or the ability to make good jackets (as we perceive them to be).
http://www.ebay.com/sch/dikasoff/m.html ... 4340.l2562
I am sorry to read your sarcastic comments and don't find it very noble to laugh at others just because they don't have either the good taste or the ability to make good jackets (as we perceive them to be).
ButteMT61
Well-Known Member
PLATON said:
I agree. Some here have developed a real off-putting attitude (snobbery). Might explain why there's about 20 people posting...
I think we can all laugh at the neon green Schott "G-1", but these guys are just trying to make a living. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Seems better than offering up a perfect zipper and nothing else.
I have no problem with people making military style jackets and selling them as such. But I do object to this maker using the G&F label on a jacket which does not even closely resemble an original naval flight jacket from this highly respected Wartime maker.
If sarcasm and jokes puts people off posting that's a shame. Sometimes having a bit of fun here livens the place up a little.
If sarcasm and jokes puts people off posting that's a shame. Sometimes having a bit of fun here livens the place up a little.
ButteMT61
Well-Known Member
Roughwear said:
Of course it does. But not everyone has the funds to acquire the best repros or vintage WWII era jackets. There have been many uses of vintage labels and contract names and designs. I think anyone who's really looking for the real deal will know this is not it, but no sense in people being pricks about it. Every hobby has this issue. I've seen it in watches, motorcycles, etc. etc. We all started somewhere, and it's usually not at the top...
SuinBruin
Well-Known Member
It's not question of mocking more affordable jacket options; you can get a much better jacket for less than this $420 piece of junk. It's about misleading advertising (is the jacket "vintage"? No. Is it an M-422A? No. Is it a G-1? No.) and the marketing of "fashion" by (mis)using original military specs and nomenclature.
I don't make fun of people who wear poor flight jacket replicas that are the best they can afford; not all of us have the means to enjoy Good Wear (or Eastman, or Kelso, or Aero, or G&B). I make fun of sellers who offer inferior products at inflated prices with blatantly misleading tags and ad copy. (JL Powell is one of the worst offenders in this regard and their target market is clearly those who can afford to drop $1k+ on a leather jacket.)
I don't make fun of people who wear poor flight jacket replicas that are the best they can afford; not all of us have the means to enjoy Good Wear (or Eastman, or Kelso, or Aero, or G&B). I make fun of sellers who offer inferior products at inflated prices with blatantly misleading tags and ad copy. (JL Powell is one of the worst offenders in this regard and their target market is clearly those who can afford to drop $1k+ on a leather jacket.)
jschare
Active Member
PLATON said:
I don't think we're laughing at others at all. In essence, we're laughing at ourselves for how anal we are. For most people, this jacket is more than enough. For us, it's not.
And I agree with Roughwear. If you're going to use a label such as G&F, then you should make it looks like a G&F otherwise it's false advertising. How many posts have there been on this forum where members have sent emails to ebay sellers correcting them on their description of the item being sold. This is no different that that.
