WW2 Panzer Jacket??

[Dover]

I found this listing recently on an online auction site alongside other WW2 militaria. It is listed as an original German Panzer jacket and trousers with the insignia removed. No good pictures of the trousers were available and the sizing was only given as small. Has anyone seen pics of this jacket in the field? Just wondering if it was legitimate. Not my cup of tea but cool nevertheless.

 

[unclegrumpy]

German tank crews did where leather jackets, but they were most often privately purchased or acquired from other sources. One of "other sources" was often the German Navy, which did have a number of different leather jacket and pant sets in a variety of styles and colors that were issued to navel personnel. There were also items from the former Armies in the countries that were occupied that were modified or repurposed and then used...but not just by tank crews.

Not really my area, but there is a lot of different styles and possibilities, all further complicated by what was continued to be worn by European Armies, navies, and police forces after the war that could be converted by collectors to appear to be something rare and valuable.

The set you posted is too hard for me to tell from the pictures, both because of my limited knowledge and the photo quality. It might have marks inside that might help, but maybe not. I seriously doubt this was ever in a tank, more likely on a motorcycle in the 1950's, possibly on a city street...or it could be German Navy...one of our many European members will likely know...some are experts with this sort of thing.

 

[Peter Graham]

Those two look rather camp, don't they ? They remind me of the clientele I've seen coming out of certain Berlin clubs.

 

[stanier]

Those two look rather camp, don't they ? They remind me of the clientele I've seen coming out of certain Berlin clubs.

They’re a pair of Nancy’s. Sorry couldn’t resist.

 

[John Lever]

Babylon Berlin ?

 

[Thomas Koehle]

Although german but not a specialist in German Tank Crew garment.

Like Grump already pointed out as per my knowledge deliveries of Navy Leather garment sets where redirected to the Panzer-Waffe to give the crew a minimum of protection against fire.

Also as far as I know it was mostly submarine equipment which was issued to tank crews and the few pictures I saw (mostly from Normandy) the tank-guys mostly used black stuff

Due to that my guess is also the set which is shown here might be more like a postwar motorbike set rather than a tankers uniform

Having said i’m also aware a lot of stuff was privately purchased so maybe the set saw service in a Panzer IV or even a TIGER anyway

 

[Dover]

This thread gone totally off the rails However, I agree that jacket just didn't look like something that would find it's way into a tank.
Here is a picture of Tiger Ace Otto Carius and his crew in Russia late 1943. They are all wearing a camo jacket that actually looks far more
practical.

 

[unclegrumpy]

ATF has those camo jackets for $149...

http://www.atthefrontshop.com/Splinter_Camo_Parka_p/guwspp.htm

 

[Thomas Koehle]

That’s the reversible winter parka which was produced in mousegrey only in the beginning and later on in different camo-schemes for SS and Wehrmacht

This Parka was standard equipment for all branches (as far as availability lasted) but not exclusively for tankers

 

[Rutger]

These fellers are wearing the basic Panzerjacke. Wool, black. Seen from Normandy to, well, wherever they got in Russia.

achatz_599 by R. Bezoen, on Flickr

 

[johnwayne]

In a slightly off track question, I used to own a Luftwaffe breast eagle that was on a black base, not usual blue. Originally my late Father's it was certainly a period piece that somehow I've since lost, damn! However I'm curious as to what it was from and was once led to believe it was poss from a panzer jacket but a Luftwaffe eagle, which is definitely was. I'd often thought it may have been privately made for perhaps a Hartmann style flight jacket. Any ideas anyone with good Third Riech uniform knowledge?

 

[jack31916]

The "Herman Goering Panzer Division" was a Luftwaffe tank unit during WW2. The members wore the black tankers uniforms instead of the regular blue Luftwaffe uniforms.

Check link for images : https://www.google.nl/search?q=luft...1UQ_AUICigB&biw=1536&bih=744&dpr=1.25#imgrc=_

 

[Silver Surfer]

there is a fella on greedbay selling several "german luftwaffe" jackets very much like the one posted by dover. they are variations on the theme, ie: short leather style, double breasted, button up, etc. in the last 5-6 years a lot of leather jackets have been showing up listed as luftwaffe this of luftwaffe that. since there were few if any luftwaffe jackets officially issued, i have to surmise that the jackets that are for sale, are french, german, austrian, czech, etc motorcycle, or messenger jackets of some sort. whats more, many appear to have been cut down to look like ?????whatever. its diffacult to actually date these jackets, but by condition, and style, many appear to have been made in the late40s-later 50s. logic would seem to dictate that by wars end there would not be a whole lot of german air force navy, army, gear around in the the nice condition we see these jackets in today....as in a-2s, irvins, tanker jackets, marine hbt, etc.

 

[johnwayne]

The "Herman Goering Panzer Division" was a Luftwaffe tank unit during WW2. The members wore the black tankers uniforms instead of the regular blue Luftwaffe uniforms.

I think that answers it! Judging by the pics I'm thinking it could have been from a cap, which by the pics looks bigger than usual and damn, why don't I still have it!!