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The Comprehensive Cap Thread
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The bills of the originals are equally stiff even though the smaller size has a washed out label. The larger is a 7 1/2.
Mine is in the middle and came from some very tattered M43 coveralls.
The smaller original has started to fade slightly but around the thread, the color is still bold. Just noticed this.
Next is me wearing the smaller original which is one size too big for me. It fits comfortably but would likely not survive any wind.
This next shot is of my repro which fits much better.
I had one I really liked that was the first cap I made. I had it tucked under the seat strap of a new R6 and when I got off the highway it was gone. Both are in the past now but I think about that cap more than the R6!
Dave
Andrew
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Just came across this fellas Blog and overall it looks pretty kooky and interesting- in my general neck of the woods too.
http://papanuisays.blogspot.com.au/2012 ... drift.html
http://papanuisays.blogspot.com.au/
Not too sure about his idea for the cap but I wonder if he could do other custom work. I'll have to introduce him to this forum...
http://papanuisays.blogspot.com.au/2012 ... drift.html
http://papanuisays.blogspot.com.au/
Not too sure about his idea for the cap but I wonder if he could do other custom work. I'll have to introduce him to this forum...
A
Anonymous
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Thats kind of a cool website.
Newest Cap and Another Toy
Gents, this is a 1949 Singer 201K. You'll read about them being the best Singer ever made. I gotta tell you when I got this thing home I wasn't as impressed as I had hoped. After cleaning, lubing, and most importantly adjusting, this thing is the smoothest most effortless machine I have ever used. One finger spun on the side of the balance wheel(like spinning a record) will easily sew. Stitches are now as even as anything I've used. It's just a pleasure to use as the smoothness is addicting and it handles domestic duties far better than the two other more modern domestics I have. The stitching on the bill was done on the walking foot industrial and is actually the weak point visually. I think it will be
This is my latest squadron cap. I accidentally installed the lining on all six panels so rather than cutting it out I decided to leave the grommets out as well and make it "winterized"! Glad this time I saved the grommets for last. The sweatband is pig.
It handled the sweat band over seam bumps easily. Most domestics just won't hold it on such variations without a lot of babying. It isn't an industrial and I wouldn't use it for leather but if you want a machine watch out for a Singer 201. You will be so much further along than with a modern disposable machine IMO.
What do you all think for numbers on this cap? Any FIS or otherwise? Was gonna do the 36th FB Sqdn but they had all red bills.
Dave
Gents, this is a 1949 Singer 201K. You'll read about them being the best Singer ever made. I gotta tell you when I got this thing home I wasn't as impressed as I had hoped. After cleaning, lubing, and most importantly adjusting, this thing is the smoothest most effortless machine I have ever used. One finger spun on the side of the balance wheel(like spinning a record) will easily sew. Stitches are now as even as anything I've used. It's just a pleasure to use as the smoothness is addicting and it handles domestic duties far better than the two other more modern domestics I have. The stitching on the bill was done on the walking foot industrial and is actually the weak point visually. I think it will be
This is my latest squadron cap. I accidentally installed the lining on all six panels so rather than cutting it out I decided to leave the grommets out as well and make it "winterized"! Glad this time I saved the grommets for last. The sweatband is pig.
It handled the sweat band over seam bumps easily. Most domestics just won't hold it on such variations without a lot of babying. It isn't an industrial and I wouldn't use it for leather but if you want a machine watch out for a Singer 201. You will be so much further along than with a modern disposable machine IMO.
What do you all think for numbers on this cap? Any FIS or otherwise? Was gonna do the 36th FB Sqdn but they had all red bills.
Dave
YoungMedic
Well-Known Member
That old Singer is too cool!
Dean is stuck on that 8-panel! LOL. Actually, I just haven't seen that many of them in period pics. The 6s were so common from the 40s on.
This 6-panel pattern needs a tweaking on the crown. The wrinkled seen in the front are due to our heads(read: my head) not being perfectly bowl-shaped. The back panels are very form fitting. I used the old "C-cap" reference and the wife looked at me bug-eyed. That 100yo term fits. I've seen period pics of caps fitting like this but I have also seen many with the two front panels slimmer and longer while the read panels are shorter a stubbier. Geez, that's redoing the whole thing! Imagine the hassle of the 8-panel!
Okay, enough hyphenated words!
Dave
This 6-panel pattern needs a tweaking on the crown. The wrinkled seen in the front are due to our heads(read: my head) not being perfectly bowl-shaped. The back panels are very form fitting. I used the old "C-cap" reference and the wife looked at me bug-eyed. That 100yo term fits. I've seen period pics of caps fitting like this but I have also seen many with the two front panels slimmer and longer while the read panels are shorter a stubbier. Geez, that's redoing the whole thing! Imagine the hassle of the 8-panel!
Okay, enough hyphenated words!
Dave
a2jacketpatches
Active Member
YoungMedic said:
I've got a few of them, oldies but goodies. Most of mine were found at the dump and just needed a little cleaning. I've been looking for more of them as I'd like to have one set up for every color, but everyone thinks they've got a 400- machine, I think because of the vintage look they have. I usually explain to sellers that back in the day, EVERY woman had one of these if not two or three, just check out some estate sales. They are still very common and not hard to find. I end up paying 20 to 40 bucks for a portable model after the sellers sit on them a couple of months. Hoping to find a nice treadle like the one in this thread to have at home, they look very cool and I could get some work done while watching the tube.
deand
Active Member
dmar836 said:
Thanks! Yeah, they look that way, but I think you'll see after the package arrives that they look similar up-close, I think the front panels are being compressed by the 25th FIS patch on the front two. The body of the cap does have traces of what I'd call 'balooning' meaning the cap does not sit close to the oval shape of most heads, but because it has 8 panels, it is more round, probably why most caps shifted to 6 panels. I think it has eight because it is a descendant of the 8 panel caps of the turn of the century, the turn from the 19th to the 20th, that is.
Then again, I've never disassembled the 8 panel I had and measured and compared the panels, and I wouldn't be surprised to find a slight variation, which would support my theory about the origins of the design. You should have the answer, soon. Here's another. I love the way they decorated them:
8 panels are making a comeback!:
http://www.strictlyfitteds.com/blog/2010/06/new-era-8-panel-bb-caps/
http://www.highsnobiety.com/2010/12/12/phenomenon-x-new-era-textile-8-panel-cap/
dean
