Rough Wear D1 type jacket.

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  1. Southoftheborder

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    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mid-C20th-WW2-Type-US-Pattern-Military-Flying-Jacket-Ref-GZSJ/142798188208?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m

    I saw this on eBay a couple of days ago and was a little intrigued by it. It's described as mid twentieth century and the seller might think it's WW11. I would guess it was made in the sixties but what does anyone else think?

    I don't know when Rough Wear closed down but I do know they were still going in 1967. Did they ever had a wartime contract for the D 1 BTW?
     
  2. Dr H

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    Others are better placed to comment on the Roughwear contracts, but personally it doesn't look like WWII vintage; too clean and tidy (the disclaimer is also a bit of a catch all and confusing, 'All our items are genuine...Please note that the collector of this item has some re-fabricated items so we cannot be 100% sure of the authenticity of this item.'). Genuine, but not authentic?
     
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  3. Southoftheborder

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    No I don't think it's WWII. As I wrote I think it's sixties or even maybe even creeping into the seventies if the company was still going then. But that's what I'd like to know, when did they go out of business? It's quite a fine point but if Rough Wear did have a wartime contract for D-1s then this would be a replica rather than a reproduction.

    But I suspect some bidders might think it is wartime which is why it's shot up in the last day. As a post war copy by a company that made wartime jackets like this I was interested in it. But not at the price it's likely to end up at.
     
  4. John Lever

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    Thinks a Real McCoys. The moth label is typical.
     
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  5. Southoftheborder

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    That's interesting. So you think it's a much later repro that's had a hard life? The now defunct NZ RM I assume? I know RM Japan still use that Rough Wear label which I thought pretty much indicated that the company did have a wartime contract. But these repro makers aren't to be trusted so I didn't take it as gospel...
     
  6. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Rough Wear had two D-1 contracts, one in 1941 ( AC 17756) and the other in 1943 (43-13615). The jacket being sold by this dealer is a repro by Real McCoys as John says.
     
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  7. Southoftheborder

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    So did Rough Wear did make jackets at all like this after the war I wonder? I've bought a fair few post war civilian type bomber jackets over the years but never saw their label in one. Though I believe practically all the US leather manufacturers made jackets anonymously for Sears and Montgomery Ward and other retail companies at one time or another who then put their own labels in them. So possibly that was how they made their crust in later years.

    As above I found a reference to them from 1967 but I wonder when they closed down?
     
  8. Roughwear

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    They did not make D-1 jackets after the War, but focused on supplying the civilian outdoor market as they had done before the War.
     
  9. Southoftheborder

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    Thanks for the info. When I said jackets like this I meant civilian flight type jackets that were so popular post war. I assume they made leather jackets as well as other clothing so might have supplied the big mail order companies?

    Do you know when they went under?
     
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  11. Southoftheborder

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    Thanks. I've actually read that but completely missed the last sentence... Getting ahead of myself again.
     
  12. Grant

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    Nice Real McCoy's NZ made D-1. The patterns were created for Real McCoy's Japan, but if you were nice, Paddy would have one made for you. I always regretted selling mine.
     
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  13. John Lever

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    Try Yahoo Japan
     
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  15. John Lever

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    Me neither.
    I don't use Buyee though I use Bid Service.
    Buyee ask for your PayPal password.... no thanks.
     
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  16. Southoftheborder

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  17. Obscurator

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    The eBay one, sold at £261, seemed to go for a very low price, notwithstanding condition.
     
  18. Southoftheborder

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    Yes I think I got a result there, and all thanks to the expertise of members here. I certainly didn't know what it was so a thank you to John Lever and Roughwear; who both have given me good information about Eastman Irvin's over at that other place in the past.
     
  19. Obscurator

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    Well done! I was sorely tempted, but mature reflection told me that the size would be a bit large for me. I also couldn't quite work out a suitable "her indoors" explanation of why yet another D-1 should appear in the house, considering I've not parted with any of D-1/B-3/A-2/B-10/B-15 jackets that I said I might.
     
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  20. johnwayne

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    Well done Southoftheborder, you bailed me out there as I punted for it as I don't own any shearlings and was tempted by the lighter weight of a D1, then checked sizes again and realised it was likely to have been too big! Prob wouldn't have worn it lot either plus my other half might have raised eyebrows too as she did when told I'd bid on yet another jacket!! Enjoy!!!
     
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