My New What Price Glory Irvin

Discussion in 'General Flight Jacket Discussion' started by CBI, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    WHAT PRICE GLORY

    Suggestions for rebranding

    WHAT PRICE _______ Suggestions please
     
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  2. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    This will be where the likes of Philip Green gets their stuff made
     
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  3. Technonut2112

    Technonut2112 Active Member

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    Most average folks would need to be rid of more than likely 3/4 of their household goods (at least here in the States) if they had issue with imports from countries where working conditions were considered poor... Just saying.. ;)
     
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  4. Tommy

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    Which is why American Manufacturing, which was at one stage the most powerful in the World, is now so weak.

    Ken has made his point quite brutally, but he is right. I'm try pretty hard to buy from ethical manufacturers or buy vintage/ second hand. Every time I try to buy new and cheap, it turns out to be a disaster.
     
  5. Technonut2112

    Technonut2112 Active Member

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    And I try pretty hard to be honest with myself, and not sanctimonious. I simply am not in the financial position I once was 10 years ago, when I was purchasing only jackets made in the USA, from Aero, bespoke from here & other countries, etc.. I shop for groceries at my local Walmart now instead of Whole Foods (I do miss the better organic food however), and do the best I can to maintain my penchant for vintage-style clothing with my wallet leading the way.

    It is frankly cheeky to even open this sort of discussion in the OP's thread, especially when a certain business owner used to sell imported A-2's as a 'budget-line' in their own shop... ;)
     
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  6. Ken at Aero Leather

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    Aero were guilty to having one run of A-2s made in India in around 1999, in our defence we sent an operative over to oversee both working conditions and quality in equal measures.
    We used the "Made in India" tag at the head of the listing almost as a selling point, if I recall correctly "Budget Type A-2 Made In India"
    Although we felt that we doing customers a favour offering a starter Aero at half price, ulimately we decided it wasn't right for us.
    Only last week we turned down the opportunity to have our Comforts Sweaters hand knitted in India despite the superb quailty available and the fact that our Scottish knitters can't keep up with the demand.
    Incidentaly we were shown the sample before we were told where it was made, we didn't go looking for third world and get cold feet.

    I appologise if you think I'm being cheeky asking where these were made, but I don't appologise for my opinions
     
  7. MeachamLake

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    I think that's the right decision for your business Ken. I don't have any qualms about buying stuff made overseas in the slightest, but part of the charm of your products is the fact they're made here in the UK. I certainly don't mind paying the extra money for that fact - knowing that it's going to a UK based business who is giving proper careers to local people is alright in my book!

    I must say though, the quality of some of the stuff coming out of China in particular is incredibly impressive. Suitsupply's top line of suits is all made in China, and the level of quality and attention to detail - a lot of it done by hand - is unsurpassed for the price. For a mass market brand, it's remarkable. Some of the factories are now making better Neapolitan tailoring than the factories in Italy!
     
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  8. Steve27752

    Steve27752 Well-Known Member

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    Buy from whom you want...This is not a political forum! Enjoy your jacket.
     
  9. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    During the War not all Irvins were made in the UK. I used to own Irvin trousers made by Lambskin Ltd of Tel-Aviv, under contract no. L1/8/L1/303/L.

    I agree Steve, it is not a political forum.
     
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  10. Peter Graham

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    Well said Ken. A businessman with ethics. That's a rare thing these days. I've always liked your stuff but I probably won't consider buying a jacket from anyone else now !
     
  11. CBI

    CBI Well-Known Member

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    A windy day:

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  12. Monsoon

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    Yeah, I know that the TCNs (Third Country Nationals) in the Middle East don't have it easy where they are working, but comparing them to concentration inmates working at places like the Lodz Ghetto? WTF?

    And CBI? Great looking jacket. I'm not an Irvin fan, but yours looks nice.
     
  13. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    It is a very good fit John.
     
  14. johnwayne

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    I hate it when this forum gets political - one of the main reasons I come here is to take myself off into a self-indulgent place and get me away from the constant crap that's going on around the world, please don't deny me that and let's stick to our shared passion/interest. Thank you
     
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  15. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough..................
     
  16. Spitfireace

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    Just out of curiosity where would you find zips like that? Checking eBay reveals nothing and I know MASH Japan doesn't have them they only have US zippers.
     
  17. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Dot or Lightning zips are not easy to find unless you buy a wrecked original Irvin jacket or a pair of Irvin trousers. Sidcot suit liners are good for sleeve zips.
     
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