Yep your wrong. Over 15K views on the thread with updates, and the jacket has been on the HW webite for 2 years. Unethical? Maybe not in the big scheme of things. Not cool to post a "look what I made" thread on a forum where there has been so much discussion about my tireless research of five years, In my opinion, yes.Sorry guys, let's not make a tempest out of a teapot.
It's honorable that you assist your buddy, but I can't quite understand the outrage.
There is a thread from Skyhawk advertising a campaign to fund a women's model based on the original. The campaign (2016) was unsuccessful and it does not appear that anything beyond the prototype is being marketed seriously. But I may be wrong.
This thread contains images that can be found in large numbers and different sources using Google Image Search.
The remaining pages of the thread deal with research on the original manufacturer and how the label looked and where an original could still be seen. Everything irrelevant for me personally. So I don't see why I could have benefited from the details of this thread.
Nevertheless, I am grateful for this thread, because I discovered the image of the original jacket, which inspired me. To make it clear: it was not the picture of the prototype of Skyhawk which inspired me.
My wish was to get a copy (not necessarily 1: 1) of the original according to my measurements. Explicitly: I didn't want a copy of a copy.
All this quickly and with a manageable investment, since I have no idea whether I like this type of jacket and I don't want to wait long.
I was glad to have found a manufacturer here in the forum who can produce something very quickly and easily according to my measurements. Admittedly, I didn't do any further research to see who else made everything to measure. I know that many only adjust in length.
The manufacturer got the picture of the original jacket from me and some other pictures that can be found in a few minutes if you master Google Image Search. So it was not the order to make a copy of the copy, but to make a copy of the original.
If this is unethical, ok, call me unethical.
But please don't blame the manufacturer. It is not his fault.
If every established jacket manufacturer can/is allowed to copy originals, why should an aspiring, motivated and very committed new market participant not?
And to make this clear: it is not a question of thousands of jackets of this type flooding the market. It's about a single jacket and maybe a few more if someone else feels the need for such a jacket.
My mistake was probably in mentioning the thread of Skyhawk and thanking for it.
Or maybe it's just my bad English, which makes me misunderstand some things or I phrase wrong (sorry for that).
Maybe also elitist thinking here in the forum.
If there is still interest, I would continue to report. Otherwise I withdraw and only read.
Let's just call it the cliff notes version of the essay question on the test. You always miss things when you are not the one who did the studying,
Just from the one pic I can see that it is the wrong color, wrong zipper, and is that pressed leather? I don't see much variation in that grain.
Like I said before, I not too worried about a budget version of this jacket being made. Don't expect me to get too excited when it turns out all wrong in the details and materials. You can't expect too much in the way of authenticity when you pay bargain basement prices.
Yep your wrong. Over 15K views on the thread with updates, and the jacket has been on the HW webite for 2 years. Unethical? Maybe not in the big scheme of things. Not cool to post a "look what I made" thread on a forum where there has been so much discussion about my tireless research of five years, In my opinion, yes.
Nice!!
I do not post anymore but I must say Jay from Headwind your comments are bad form . Almost insecure in nature ,Jay you know what you put into your jackets and so do we so why tell or critisise the competition . I have never seen John Chapman ever reply to a compliment or critism of his work no need his work is his walk the walk . I have been turned off with the behaviour of Aero and DD BK and the like of late. Jay do not fall into the same hole ,please its crass .